Ian wrote
. but OSM was largely formed because of government
restrictions over the use of its data (i.e OS copyright),
.
This is news to me, but if for some reason this is true, can someone
please explain to me why, after convincing the Australian government
to release data under a
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 15:31 +1000, Ian Sergeant wrote:
This is the Australian list, in case you didn't realise
Ah, so you are speaking for all Australians!
Well, I have yet to hear any Australians complain about the freedom of
the data, other than being incompatible with the new
On 4/05/2011 5:18 PM, David Murn wrote:
Well, I have yet to hear any Australians complain about the freedom of
the data, other than being incompatible with the new one-of-a-kind
licence that OSM is wanting to use.
I'm not objecting to freedom of data. The comment I objected to is
the one that
On 04/05/11 15:31, Ian Sergeant wrote:
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for
our government, they are good enough for us...
I wrote:
Who is us, in this case?
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
This is the
On 04/05/11 15:31, Ian Sergeant wrote:
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for
our government, they are good enough for us...
I wrote:
Who is us, in this case?
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
This is the
It's such a shame that your high regard for diverse opinions only seem
to matter if they match yours.
On 5/4/11, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 May 2011 20:40, Tim Challis tim.chal...@gmail.com wrote:
Sarcasm aside. I am quite happy to go along with Liz' pronunciations to
date.
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 20:29 +1000, Ian Sergeant wrote:
I'm not objecting to freedom of data. The comment I objected to is
the one that said if it is good enough for the Australian government,
then it must be good enough for all Australians, with no need to
examine it further. That may be
On Wed, 4 May 2011 20:29:22 +1000
Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/05/2011 5:18 PM, David Murn wrote:
Well, I have yet to hear any Australians complain about the freedom
of the data, other than being incompatible with the new
one-of-a-kind licence that OSM is wanting to use.
On 4 May 2011 21:29, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
It doesnt have to match the opinion of all Australians, as long as it
matches the opinions of those who matter and would be deciding on these
things (copyright lawyers, judges, etc).
We seem to have drifted. Of course ultimately
On 27 April 2011 05:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Wait, why did the Australian government stop using CC-by-SA and move
to CC-by? I actually wasn't aware of this, maybe because CC-by-SA adds
On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:28:09 +0100
Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
On 27 April 2011 05:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Wait, why did the Australian government stop using
On 4 May 2011 06:49, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for
our government, they are good enough for us...
Who is us, in this case?
This is the Australian list, in case you didn't realise
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for
our government, they are good enough for us...
I wrote:
Who is us, in this case?
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
This is the Australian list, in case you didn't realise
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
The LWG is well aware of the NearMap licensing issue and we are trying
to get it resolved as soon as we can but we are an all
On 27 April 2011 14:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
*sarcasm* But it all doesn't matter anyway, John Smith has degreed
that all Australian geodata is PD anyway. See:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2011-April/007829.html
A lot of people do take this issue
On 27/04/11 16:27, John Smith wrote:
On 27 April 2011 14:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
*sarcasm* But it all doesn't matter anyway, John Smith has degreed
that all Australian geodata is PD anyway. See:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2011-April/007829.html
Hi Talk-au,
I am a volunteer member (like all the members) of the Licensing
Working Group (LWG), OSM Sysadmin Team along with a few other
OpenStreetMap groups.
The LWG is well aware of the NearMap licensing issue and we are trying
to get it resolved as soon as we can but we are an all volunteer
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:17 +0100, Grant Slater wrote:
I am a volunteer member (like all the members) of the Licensing
Working Group (LWG), OSM Sysadmin Team along with a few other
OpenStreetMap groups.
Does this mean we can ask (and receive definitive answers from) you the
hard questions
Hi.
On 27 April 2011 00:56, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:17 +0100, Grant Slater wrote:
Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the
Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs
Them conflict in the community
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:33 +0100
Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the
Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs
Them conflict in the community with exaggerated claims and mistruths.
We
On 26 April 2011 22:06, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Bluntly,
CC-by-SA for geodata is fine here. It's good enough for our government,
it's good enough for us. (Au government now is using CC-by for data).
We believe in Share-Alike. Actually, we have been brought up to believe
in
On 27 April 2011 07:06, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Bluntly,
CC-by-SA for geodata is fine here. It's good enough for our government,
it's good enough for us. (Au government now is using CC-by for data).
We believe in Share-Alike. Actually, we have been brought up to believe
in
On 27/04/11 07:06, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:33 +0100
Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the
Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs
Them conflict in the community with
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