Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-18 Thread Nick Hocking
Ben wrote Also, thank you for fixing those track sections at St Marys. Do you know what happened there? Given there was a derailment there 2 months ago, I find this a spooky co-incidence... Co-incidently I was in Sydney for the day, on that day, for a work meeting and as I

[talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Nick Hocking
I wish to transport a long thinnish somewhat fragile wooden object from Sydney to Canberra behind steam locomotive 1210. Given that there some tunnels along the way, is the mapping in OSM accurate enough in terms of bendiness to calculate (given a known width of tunnel) whether the wooden object

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Alex Sims
Nick, Is this a thought experiment about OSM mapping or a question about loading gauges that the ARTC might better answer? My quick guess is that OSM cannot answer the question either in the affirmative or the negative as it doesn't have data every 50 meters along the route. Alex On

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Nick Hocking
Alex wrote or a question about loading gauges that the ARTC might better answer? Yes it would be better for ARTC to answer but before I bother them I would like to know if it is at all feasable. Specifically, I am concerned that one of the tunnels between Queanbeyan and Bungendore may well be

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Ian Sergeant
Just use openstreetbugs to geolocate the splinters, and we'll get to work. Ian. On 16/10/12 18:05, Nick Hocking wrote: I wish to transport a long thinnish somewhat fragile wooden object from Sydney to Canberra behind steam locomotive 1210. Given that there some tunnels along the way, is the

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Nick Hocking
Actually, I've just had a go with a 50 metre stick insect in JOSM and it is REALLY touch and go (or is that touch and stay). Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Russell Edwards
Maybe I'm missing something but surely it depends not only on the radius of curvature of the track but also the width of the tunnel. It has been bugging me that ways have no width in OSM. But I suppose the alternative would be very hard to manage. Secondly, even if you don't trust the path

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Nick Hocking
Russell wrote you could at least work out a minimum radius of curvature OK - what I will do is find out the tunnel width. Then I'll assume that we offload the objecty just before the tunnel and walk it through with the object rotated 90 degrees through the long axis. I'll do as you suggest and

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Nick Hocking
Ok - my initial drawings, using JOSM and a tunnel width of 3 metres show that this could end up being a matter of inches. I really have to find out exact dimensions of the object and whether there is any flexability in it so that we could bend it around the tunnel. Also, if two tunnels are such a

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Ben Johnson
Nick… I'm not sure what you're doing, it sounds fascinating, mysterious and dangerous. I like it. Please let me know what path you're taking through Sydney so I can avoid the area completely... I don't want to crash a brand new $30m Waratah into your ladder! This info from ARTC will be handy …