Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
On 28/06/2010, at 11:10 PM, Markus wrote: Sound good to me to leave the GLR number and Ecolink if you put it with a standard osm key. Here's what I've currently got, any more comments? 1) National park get boundary=national_park and leisure=nature_reserve. Should any of the standard, Recovery, Scientific, or Aboriginal NPs or Resource Reserves get marked differently (e.g. nationak_park=scientific)? Reading the QLD Nature Conservation Act '92, I don't think they make a general difference for what we use, but some of them may be more restricted due to regeneration for recovery. 2) Conservation Parks get boundary=protected_area and leisure=nature_reserve. 3) State Forests get landuse=forest. Any leisure activities (e.g camping) get marked as their own thing, like tourism=camp_site, which isn't in this dataset 4) Forest Reserves and Timber Reserve (which are often adjacent to or in State Forests) get landuse=forest as well, I can't see any useful additional tags. 4) If there is a CREEK or ROAD polygon through an park, I'll add a waterway=river/highway=road way and merge that polygon into the surrounding park. I don't think we need the actual road-reserve polygons do we? 5) Everything that has a IUCN code gets that put as protect_id=1-6. 6) Do we want the EcoLink/GLR number data? I think it's just a identifier that the govt department uses, so it's only real use would be to help if we want to do process updates - however it may be easier just to diff the old and new data and do it manually, this stuff shouldn't change to fast. -- James ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
Hi James, Sorry but I have just been looking at the boundary=protected_area tag. It appears it is a new tag someone has made to render specific ways using KOSMOS rendering platform. I am not sure if it is an approved tag. Although I quite like the idea of it. May need to use the boundary=national_park Maybe someone can clarify. I was also looking at mkgmap (used to produce Garmin maps) and it appears that the default is to render off leisure=nature_reserve and landuse=forest and not boundary=national_park. Also no mention of protected_area. Markus -Original Message- From: James Livingston [mailto:li...@sunsetutopia.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 9:20 PM To: Markus Cc: 'OSM Australian Talk List' Subject: Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas On 28/06/2010, at 11:10 PM, Markus wrote: Sound good to me to leave the GLR number and Ecolink if you put it with a standard osm key. Here's what I've currently got, any more comments? 1) National park get boundary=national_park and leisure=nature_reserve. Should any of the standard, Recovery, Scientific, or Aboriginal NPs or Resource Reserves get marked differently (e.g. nationak_park=scientific)? Reading the QLD Nature Conservation Act '92, I don't think they make a general difference for what we use, but some of them may be more restricted due to regeneration for recovery. 2) Conservation Parks get boundary=protected_area and leisure=nature_reserve. 3) State Forests get landuse=forest. Any leisure activities (e.g camping) get marked as their own thing, like tourism=camp_site, which isn't in this dataset 4) Forest Reserves and Timber Reserve (which are often adjacent to or in State Forests) get landuse=forest as well, I can't see any useful additional tags. 4) If there is a CREEK or ROAD polygon through an park, I'll add a waterway=river/highway=road way and merge that polygon into the surrounding park. I don't think we need the actual road-reserve polygons do we? 5) Everything that has a IUCN code gets that put as protect_id=1-6. 6) Do we want the EcoLink/GLR number data? I think it's just a identifier that the govt department uses, so it's only real use would be to help if we want to do process updates - however it may be easier just to diff the old and new data and do it manually, this stuff shouldn't change to fast. -- James= No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2969 - Release Date: 06/29/10 04:05:00 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
On 29 June 2010 23:18, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: I am not sure if it is an approved tag. Although I quite like the idea of it. If it serves a useful purpose and it doesn't duplicate the functionality of another tag already well used, then just use it, tags don't need to be official, although a little common sense can be a good thing :) Several trivial tags put to a vote of late drew out an anti-voting movement, where the response was to just use it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:49 PM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: Here's what I've currently got, any more comments? ... Is it worth using an additional classification:qld=national_park|conservation_park|state_forest, etc. (or similar), just to make things extra clear? That is, when you use a rule like Conservation Parks get boundary=protected_area, I think it would be nice to also record that they are a conservation_park. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
On 29 June 2010 21:49, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: 3) State Forests get landuse=forest. Any leisure activities (e.g camping) get marked as their own thing, like tourism=camp_site, which isn't in this dataset 4) Forest Reserves and Timber Reserve (which are often adjacent to or in State Forests) get landuse=forest as well, I can't see any useful additional tags. Are you actually going to put the fact that it is a State forest anywhere? Sure, landuse=forest is not a problem, but some sort of tag stating that it is a state forest (as opposed to private land) sounds appropriate. Stephen ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
On 30 June 2010 11:55, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Are you actually going to put the fact that it is a State forest anywhere? Sure, landuse=forest is not a problem, but some sort of tag stating that it is a state forest (as opposed to private land) sounds appropriate. Most state forests, are called such and such state forest... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au