Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-29 Thread James Livingston
On 28/06/2010, at 11:10 PM, Markus wrote:
 Sound good to me to leave the GLR number and Ecolink if you put it with a
 standard osm key.

Here's what I've currently got, any more comments?

1) National park get boundary=national_park and leisure=nature_reserve. Should 
any of the standard, Recovery, Scientific, or Aboriginal NPs or Resource 
Reserves get marked differently (e.g. nationak_park=scientific)? Reading the 
QLD Nature Conservation Act '92, I don't think they make a general difference 
for what we use, but some of them may be more restricted due to regeneration 
for recovery.

2) Conservation Parks get boundary=protected_area and leisure=nature_reserve.

3) State Forests get landuse=forest. Any leisure activities (e.g camping) get 
marked as their own thing, like tourism=camp_site, which isn't in this dataset

4) Forest Reserves and Timber Reserve (which are often adjacent to or in State 
Forests) get landuse=forest as well, I can't see any useful additional tags.

4) If there is a CREEK or ROAD polygon through an park, I'll add a 
waterway=river/highway=road way and merge that polygon into the surrounding 
park. I don't think we need the actual road-reserve polygons do we?

5) Everything that has a IUCN code gets that put as protect_id=1-6.

6) Do we want the EcoLink/GLR number data? I think it's just a identifier that 
the govt department uses, so it's only real use would be to help if we want to 
do process updates - however it may be easier just to diff the old and new data 
and do it manually, this stuff shouldn't change to fast.

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Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-29 Thread Markus
Hi James,

Sorry but I have just been looking at the boundary=protected_area tag. It
appears it is a new tag someone has made to render specific ways using
KOSMOS rendering platform.

I am not sure if it is an approved tag. Although I quite like the idea of
it.

May need to use the boundary=national_park 

Maybe someone can clarify.

I was also looking at mkgmap (used to produce Garmin maps) and it appears
that the default is to render off leisure=nature_reserve and landuse=forest
and not boundary=national_park. Also no mention of protected_area.

Markus



-Original Message-
From: James Livingston [mailto:li...@sunsetutopia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 June 2010 9:20 PM
To: Markus
Cc: 'OSM Australian Talk List'
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

On 28/06/2010, at 11:10 PM, Markus wrote:
 Sound good to me to leave the GLR number and Ecolink if you put it with a
 standard osm key.

Here's what I've currently got, any more comments?

1) National park get boundary=national_park and leisure=nature_reserve.
Should any of the standard, Recovery, Scientific, or Aboriginal NPs or
Resource Reserves get marked differently (e.g. nationak_park=scientific)?
Reading the QLD Nature Conservation Act '92, I don't think they make a
general difference for what we use, but some of them may be more restricted
due to regeneration for recovery.

2) Conservation Parks get boundary=protected_area and
leisure=nature_reserve.

3) State Forests get landuse=forest. Any leisure activities (e.g camping)
get marked as their own thing, like tourism=camp_site, which isn't in this
dataset

4) Forest Reserves and Timber Reserve (which are often adjacent to or in
State Forests) get landuse=forest as well, I can't see any useful additional
tags.

4) If there is a CREEK or ROAD polygon through an park, I'll add a
waterway=river/highway=road way and merge that polygon into the surrounding
park. I don't think we need the actual road-reserve polygons do we?

5) Everything that has a IUCN code gets that put as protect_id=1-6.

6) Do we want the EcoLink/GLR number data? I think it's just a identifier
that the govt department uses, so it's only real use would be to help if we
want to do process updates - however it may be easier just to diff the old
and new data and do it manually, this stuff shouldn't change to fast.

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Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 June 2010 23:18, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
 I am not sure if it is an approved tag. Although I quite like the idea of
 it.

If it serves a useful purpose and it doesn't duplicate the
functionality of another tag already well used, then just use it,
tags don't need to be official, although a little common sense can
be a good thing :)

Several trivial tags put to a vote of late drew out an anti-voting
movement, where the response was to just use it.

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Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:49 PM, James Livingston
li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote:

 Here's what I've currently got, any more comments?
 ...

Is it worth using an additional
classification:qld=national_park|conservation_park|state_forest, etc.
(or similar), just to make things extra clear?

That is, when you use a rule like Conservation Parks get
boundary=protected_area, I think it would be nice to also record that
they are a conservation_park.

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Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-29 Thread Stephen Hope
On 29 June 2010 21:49, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote:
 3) State Forests get landuse=forest. Any leisure activities (e.g camping) get 
 marked as their own thing, like tourism=camp_site, which isn't in this dataset

 4) Forest Reserves and Timber Reserve (which are often adjacent to or in 
 State Forests) get landuse=forest as well, I can't see any useful additional 
 tags.


Are you actually going to put the fact that it is a State forest
anywhere?  Sure, landuse=forest is not a problem, but some sort of tag
stating that it is a state forest (as opposed to private land) sounds
appropriate.


Stephen

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Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 June 2010 11:55, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you actually going to put the fact that it is a State forest
 anywhere?  Sure, landuse=forest is not a problem, but some sort of tag
 stating that it is a state forest (as opposed to private land) sounds
 appropriate.

Most state forests, are called such and such state forest...

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