Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Alex Sims
On 11/12/2012 6:06 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: Ok, but I don't think we should get hung up on the coincidence between the Australian official meaning of city and the tag place=city. (By coincidence, I mean, if we happened to speak some other language, obviously there'd be no official designation

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Barham
Hi I disagree, I believe the greater than 100,000 test is not applicable within Australia. OSM Wiki says a city is: The largest urban settlements in the territory, normally including the national, state and provincial capitals. These are defined by charter or other governmental designation in

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Mark Pulley
On 11/12/2012, at 9:17 AM, Chris Barham wrote: Hi, some Australian places have changed from cities to towns on; changeset was: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14217241 The ones on the changeset that I think should be cities are: NSW: Albury, Bathurst, Broken Hill, Coffs

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Paul HAYDON
Hi everyone, Firstly, a qualification:I've not read the Wiki on this subject, so this is simply my opinion without the support of guidelines/rules/etc. I believe, having authored/compiled some detail Magellan maps for eXplorist GPSrs this year, that more important than guidelines or rules that

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Steve Bennett
I would want place=city to refer to an urban populated area of at least 100,000 people as per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Values I've taken to fixing errors from Geofabrik OSMI and have changed places to match the schema above. Whilst I find hamlet village grate on me as

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread David
Mind you, this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Victoria,_Australia Tells us that cities need at least 50,000 people, i guess Victoria is special. Seriously, i don't think a hard number only test is very appropriate. David Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I would want

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi Alex, My view on all this is that if a place has officially been designated as a city then we must tag it as such. If it is offically a town then we must tag it as a town etc. If we can't find any official designation then either common sense of maybe a state specific rule could be applied.

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Alex Sims
On 12/12/2012 2:54 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: My view on all this is that if a place has officially been designated as a city then we must tag it as such. If it is offically a town then we must tag it as a town etc. If we can't find any official designation then either common sense of maybe a

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Christoph Donges
Wikipedia has some different information (with references) that are considerably different. Since the start of the 20th century, local government acts in each state specify the criteria and thresholds and applications are made to the Governors of the Australian