[talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-19 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi guys,
  I'm working with the City of Melbourne on some open data projects.
www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/an-open-data-vision-20140818-105d5n.html

One thing we could do is import some of their data into OSM. For example:
- water fountains
- addresses
- businesses
- trees

I haven't done any automated imports before, but I'm sensible enough to go
through the procedures, triple check that we're not duplicating existing
data etc.

Just wanted to check what you think of this idea, and whether anyone has
worked with CoM data before?

Steve
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Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-19 Thread Daniel Sobey
Hi Steve,

There is a lot of open data that could potentially be used from data.gov
and state portals.
http://www.data.gov.au/
https://www.data.vic.gov.au/
http://data.sa.gov.au/

Much of this was released for the govhack competition last month.
No idea about the process of importing data but try and ensure that you add
tags to say where the data came from, what licence it was released under
etc.



On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,
   I'm working with the City of Melbourne on some open data projects.
 www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/an-open-data-vision-20140818-105d5n.html

 One thing we could do is import some of their data into OSM. For example:
 - water fountains
 - addresses
 - businesses
 - trees

 I haven't done any automated imports before, but I'm sensible enough to go
 through the procedures, triple check that we're not duplicating existing
 data etc.

 Just wanted to check what you think of this idea, and whether anyone has
 worked with CoM data before?

 Steve

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Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-19 Thread Paul Norman

On 8/19/2014 3:42 PM, Daniel Sobey wrote:

Hi Steve,

There is a lot of open data that could potentially be used from 
data.gov http://data.gov and state portals.

http://www.data.gov.au/
https://www.data.vic.gov.au/
http://data.sa.gov.au/

Much of this was released for the govhack competition last month.
No idea about the process of importing data but try and ensure that 
you add tags to say where the data came from, what licence it was 
released under etc.
You need to consult with the imports@ list for any imports you want to 
do, but there's no need for tags. Attribution is provided in accordance 
with 4.2c or 4.3 of the ODbL, currently done by means of the wiki page 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors.


It *may* be useful to add a source tag, but that's for mapper 
convenience, not any legal requirements. You can also indicate source 
with a changeset tag.
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Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor


 One thing we could do is import some of their data into OSM. For example:
 - addresses


Addresses may be one of the more useful data sets, and you might want to
look at things like openaddresses.io as well - though I did open up a pull
request for VicMap data.

A similar import is
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/NYC_Buildings_Addresses
 - speaking to folks on the imports list will be useful, as there are
undoubtedly lessons learned etc that are applicable.

If they have the data, building footprints are also pretty neat.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geelong_Building_Import is one I did a
few months ago - some of the geospatial team there are dead keen on open
data and would no doubt be happy to talk with their melbourne counterparts
as well.
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Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Oh, and I nearly forgot: one of the issues with data is bitrot - you'll
want to think about not only the initial data import, but how best to keep
it up to date.

I've found subscribing to a feed of data from planningalerts.org.au is a
good indicator for when housing or addresses in my area are possibly going
to be invalidated.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.com
wrote:


 One thing we could do is import some of their data into OSM. For example:
 - addresses


 Addresses may be one of the more useful data sets, and you might want to
 look at things like openaddresses.io as well - though I did open up a
 pull request for VicMap data.

 A similar import is
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/NYC_Buildings_Addresses
  - speaking to folks on the imports list will be useful, as there are
 undoubtedly lessons learned etc that are applicable.

 If they have the data, building footprints are also pretty neat.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geelong_Building_Import is one I did a
 few months ago - some of the geospatial team there are dead keen on open
 data and would no doubt be happy to talk with their melbourne counterparts
 as well.

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