Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
I finally managed to get in touch with one of the organisers, and raised the licensing/waiver issue. They've said they asked Planet Labs for the waiver, I've also independently reached out to the Planet Labs disasters contact with background on why OSM asks for the waiver and the waiver asking

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Sebastian S.
Hi Andrew, are they (the organisers) aware of the licensing issues/requirements? Are they following here? Please engage with the discussion :-) On 6 February 2020 12:37:16 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >I was corrected by someone off list, looks like they are planning on >mapping within OSM

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Warin
On 6/2/20 3:21 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 13:14, Andrew Harvey > wrote: Fair point, I didn't find it since it's not documented https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/damage#wiki. The two tags can coexist so I don't see a

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 13:14, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Fair point, I didn't find it since it's not documented > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/damage#wiki. The two tags can > coexist so I don't see a problem with using damage as a quick and easy > method for new contributors. > As long as

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
Fair point, I didn't find it since it's not documented https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/damage#wiki. The two tags can coexist so I don't see a problem with using damage as a quick and easy method for new contributors. On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:04, Phil Wyatt wrote: > The damage tag has

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Phil Wyatt
The damage tag has been widely used in past international events https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=damage Oh for a standardised tagging system! From: Andrew Harvey Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2020 1:44 PM To: Phil Wyatt Cc: Stephen Backway ; talk-au Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
The lifecycle prefix is the way to go https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix and has already been used fairly widespread to map impact from the current fire season. razed:building=* ruins:building=* On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 13:05, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > I am also not

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Folks, In past assessments such as this I think the actual event has also been tagged damage:event=’NSW Fires 2020’ A good paper on the accuracy of this type of remote capture work Section 3.1 seems to be the critical few paragraphs. It’s a few years ago and hopefully image

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Folks, I am also not sure that adding Damage=No is suitable for OSM either? If the building footprint already exists then add a "Damaged" tag with a value of "Yes" if it looks to have been impacted by fire or "No" if it has not been impacted by fire. If you are unsure do not enter a

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-02-05 Thread cleary
Thanks for the feedback. I now realise that the easily accessible data from Transport NSW is NOT licensed under Creative Commons and I would need assistance to access the licensed data. Andrew, thanks for the offer to assist in accessing the data. However, on reflection, I don't think it

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
I was corrected by someone off list, looks like they are planning on mapping within OSM https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/7893. Now I have to scrabble to validate Planet Labs has provided the necessary permission for their imagery to be traced into OSM. On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:12, Andrew Harvey

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
I sent an email to the contact email to ask for more information, but by the looks of it they aren't uploading anything to OpenStreetMap, they are creating their own datasets (which may or may not be released as open data, they haven't stated yet). It's unclear how they are planning on consuming

[talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Stephen Backway
Hi group,   I just came across this Map-A-Thon by chance, apologies if it has been shared already and I missed it: https://sssi.org.au/fire-map-a-thon/about-map-a-thon   Extract from the above page: The SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon is being held on Sunday, 9th February, 2020

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 10:58, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 09:34, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> >> >>> 2. Depending on the answer to the above, do we need to add TfNSW to the >>> List of Conributors in the wiki? and does the waiver need to published in >>> the wiki? >>>

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 09:34, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > >> 2. Depending on the answer to the above, do we need to add TfNSW to the >> List of Conributors in the wiki? and does the waiver need to published in >> the wiki? >> > > Yes, if the data is used in OpenStreetMap, per the waiver agreement

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 10:09, cleary wrote: > > Some Sydney bus routes have changed and I have modified a few by survey > (catching buses and recording routes and stops). Using TfNSW data would be > much easier. > > 1. Can I use the TfNSW data now to modify/add some local bus routes or do > we

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-02-05 Thread cleary
Some Sydney bus routes have changed and I have modified a few by survey (catching buses and recording routes and stops). Using TfNSW data would be much easier. 1. Can I use the TfNSW data now to modify/add some local bus routes or do we need to await discussion and an agreed import plan? 2.

Re: [talk-au] Australian guidelines for mapping landuse-landcover?

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Yep. ditch the landuse page as I don't think our landcover is any different to anywhere else? As a matter of fact, the main Australia page could do with a clean-u / refresh https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia As for the tagging guidelines, I'm also in two minds? How about something

Re: [talk-au] Airborne Research Australia South Australia Bushfire Imagery

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
You can now find it at https://osmlab.github.io/editor-layer-index/ and click the add to JOSM button. On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 22:16, Andrew Harvey wrote: > They've agreed to the imagery tracing waiver! PR to add this into editors > is at https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/pull/785, but

Re: [talk-au] Airborne Research Australia South Australia Bushfire Imagery

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
They've agreed to the imagery tracing waiver! PR to add this into editors is at https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/pull/785, but in the meantime you can load this URL into JOSM or iD: https://{switch:a,b,c,d}.

Re: [talk-au] Australian guidelines for mapping landuse-landcover?

2020-02-05 Thread Sebastian S.
If the page has not Australian specifics, get rid of it/delete. I also agree on the length of the tagging guidelines being too long. How do other languages or counties solve that? On 5 February 2020 2:35:47 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >I'm for just deleting this page. > >While I agree the