Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
On 8/10/21 2:17 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 09:22, EON4wd > wrote: Question, How can I identify this person so that I can contact them to be able to find out what they are thinking? If you're using the default iD editor, select a feature,

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 11:53, cleary wrote: > > Good mapping practice is to keep administrative boundaries such as state > parks, conservation areas, suburbs etc separate from natural features such > as water, waterways, woods etc. While they sometimes approximate, they > rarely coincide

Re: [talk-au] Russian Town Names?

2021-10-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
There general rule in OSM is only tag if the place does have a common name in that language, and not tag transliteration. If you really want to add transliterations this can be done via Wikidata which can be linked to OSM. Some maps like Mapbox will then use the Wikidata linked transliterations

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 09:22, EON4wd wrote: > Question, How can I identify this person so that I can contact them to be > able to find out what they are thinking? > If you're using the default iD editor, select a feature, then in the bottom left there is a link to view on OSM, which shows in the

Re: [talk-au] Survey/GPS trace request for Snowies Iconic Walk Phase 2

2021-10-07 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Brendan, Maybe drop a request on the NSW section of the bushwalk forum. Bound to be someone heading that way. There are also a few OSM folks on there as well https://www.bushwalk.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=36 There is also a guy that makes files for Garmin GPS’s based on OSM so

[talk-au] Russian Town Names?

2021-10-07 Thread Dian Ågesson
Hello, I've stumbled upon a considerable trove of towns that have had Russian names added to them. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1bRp After going through them they nearly all seem to be transliteration done my the same handful of users (who have various amounts of blocks). While the tag is

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread EON4wd
Another part of the question is how many trees before it can be classified as such? I have been to the Grampians within the last 12 months and I did not find any scorched area left. All trees had growth. If I look at the satellite picture from the OSM id editor, large areas look burnt. Look

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread Adam Horan
There is another aspect to your question, which is how to map woods/trees after a fire? You're right it looks like someone has mapped the wooded areas as a relation with holes for non-wooded areas https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9300964/history Some of the current gaps might be due to

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Adam Horan
Yep, although you do see lots of natural=wood and natural=water overlapping. I usually see this as a temporary hack until someone wants to put in the effort of creating a relation with a hole in it and moving the tags there. On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 11:52, Sam Wilson wrote: > Yes, good point. And

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Sam Wilson
Yes, good point. And equally, it'd be unlikely for natural=wood and natural=scrub to overlap. On 8/10/21 8:36 am, Adam Horan wrote: That's probably a good rule of thumb, although with the addition of same type and 'level'. Admin boundaries overlap and nest all the time, but you wouldn't

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread cleary
Good mapping practice is to keep administrative boundaries such as state parks, conservation areas, suburbs etc separate from natural features such as water, waterways, woods etc. While they sometimes approximate, they rarely coincide exactly. Tagging a state park as natural=wood is

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Adam Horan
That's probably a good rule of thumb, although with the addition of same type and 'level'. Admin boundaries overlap and nest all the time, but you wouldn't normally expect two of the same type and level to overlap. LGA within State within Country etc On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 11:31, Sam Wilson

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread Adam Horan
I think you're asking the same question as Andrew, but you possibly have different viewpoints or opinions on it. I see the map as a painting that's becoming more detailed and accurate as time progresses. In the beginning the map was blank, and people added large areas of landcover just to get

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Sam Wilson
My understanding is that areas should not overlap only where they are of a similar type. Areas of natural=wood and boundary=national_park aren't similar and so it's fine for them to overlap. On 8/10/21 6:25 am, Adam Horan via Talk-au wrote: "Where something like the boundaries of a State Park

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Adam Horan via Talk-au
"Where something like the boundaries of a State Park and a forested area are not the same." I'd say that this is common and expected, and should be handled with separate areas. I feel it's very much the old style of mapping to put 'natural=wood' on a park admin boundary. Adam On Fri, 8 Oct

[talk-au] Mapping tree cover

2021-10-07 Thread EON4wd
Hi, Further to Andrew Parkers question about forested areas. I am also a casual user for uploading data and I also create my own maps from the data. My interest is in 4wd tracks. The Grampians has had the 'landcover - tree' 'areas' changed which in my opinion is now not correct. See

Re: [talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread forster
Hi If you were told this by changeset comment, can you give the URL? Tony Hi everyone I am a basic OSM editor. I usually just correct obvious map errors I find while hiking/cycling. I have tried to be a little more ambitious every now and then, but I have found it can be quite difficult to keep

[talk-au] Basic question

2021-10-07 Thread Andrew & Ingrid Parker
Hi everyone I am a basic OSM editor. I usually just correct obvious map errors I find while hiking/cycling. I have tried to be a little more ambitious every now and then, but I have found it can be quite difficult to keep other editors happy with what I do. My question is: Can you have

[talk-au] Survey/GPS trace request for Snowies Iconic Walk Phase 2

2021-10-07 Thread Brendan Barnes
Hi OSM Bushwalkers, This spring will be the official opening of the "Snowies Iconic Walk Phase 2" in Kosciuszko National Park. This will be a brand new 5.6km stretch of alpine hiking trail built to modern standards that follows the Snowy River between Illawong Lodge and Charlotte Pass, and