Re: [talk-au] OSM Attribution Q

2022-08-18 Thread forster

And I also reported another attribution error:

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 at 07:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:



Hi Sergey

Thanks for that!

I reported it online & received an acknowledgement,



& it was reported via this form:
https://support.mapbox.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=36308212

Hope that helps?

Thanks

Graeme







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Re: [talk-au] OSM Attribution Q

2022-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 at 07:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
> Hi Sergey
>
> Thanks for that!
>
> I reported it online & received an acknowledgement,
>

& it was reported via this form:
https://support.mapbox.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=36308212

Hope that helps?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] OSM Attribution Q

2022-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 22:04, Sergey Beliamei 
wrote:

> Hello, Graeme!
> I work at MapBox. We did not receive a message from you, please, tell me
> what address you sent it to?
>
> Best regards,
> Member of Mapbox team,
> Sergey
>

Hi Sergey

Thanks for that!

I reported it online & received an acknowledgement, which I'll send through
in a moment.

Thanks

Graeme
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[talk-au] OSM Attribution Q

2022-08-18 Thread Sergey Beliamei via Talk-au
Hello, Graeme!
I work at MapBox. We did not receive a message from you, please, tell me
what address you sent it to?



Best regards,
Member of Mapbox team,
Sergey
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Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread Ian Sergeant
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 18:33, stevea  wrote:

> In the case of cycleway=lane, that IS paint, and I (and many others) map
> these all the time.  I see nothing wrong with “mapping paint” like this.
>
>
As long as it's not a separate way.  Paint can form a lane, but there
should be no indication that there is actual separation.  And doubly so on
motorways.  Cycling on one in most parts of the world would see you
arrested and starring on Highway Patrol with the stupid guy music in the
background.  In Australia it passes for cycling infrastructure.

This allows people to plan routes avoiding 100km/h+ roads, for example.

Ian.
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Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread stevea
On Aug 18, 2022, at 12:42 AM, Michael Collinson  wrote:
> Purely as a question: Is there a case for actually mapping the whole cycleway 
> separately as a cycleway? As a cyclist, I like to see what I have in store. 
> Argument for: Well, that is what it is, a dual use cycleway and hard 
> shoulder. And I guess main argument against: Ah, but it is not physically 
> separated and, slightly repurposing Andrew's comment, "you are mapping paint”.

In the case of cycleway=lane, that IS paint, and I (and many others) map these 
all the time.  I see nothing wrong with “mapping paint” like this.



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Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread Michael Collinson
Purely as a question: Is there a case for actually mapping the whole 
cycleway separately as a cycleway? As a cyclist, I like to see what I 
have in store. Argument for: Well, that is what it is, a dual use 
cycleway and hard shoulder. And I guess main argument against: Ah, but 
it is not physically separated and, slightly repurposing Andrew's 
comment, "you are mapping paint".


On 2022-08-18 08:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:




On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 13:17, Andrew Harvey  
wrote:



We should explicitly tag every motorway with bicycle=yes/no
because some motorways allow bicycles and others forbid them.


& then you get situations like this:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-28.535651543577=153.53896264714=17=1164980277280563=photo=0.3457481526763355=0.5159430950498471=2.6582278481012658 



then 100m further:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-28.536232873317=153.53874804183=17=387825812412523=photo=0.4645538612648733=0.5690565818776447=1.5949367088607593 



which is tagged as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/666546115

Yes, it works, I guess, but to my mind it looks ridiculous, & also 
errors in Osmose etc as an unconnected cycleway!


 Thanks

Graeme


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Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 16:58, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

>
> I would probably not model that way, the onramp should merge much sooner
> with the motorway and that should be good enough, unless you start mapping
> paint on the road.
>

So you reckon take out the bike crossing altogether, & the "two" motorways
each with cycleway=yes merging would then work as a bike crossing?

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Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 16:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 13:17, Andrew Harvey 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> We should explicitly tag every motorway with bicycle=yes/no because some
>> motorways allow bicycles and others forbid them.
>>
>
> & then you get situations like this:
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-28.535651543577=153.53896264714=17=1164980277280563=photo=0.3457481526763355=0.5159430950498471=2.6582278481012658
>
> then 100m further:
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-28.536232873317=153.53874804183=17=387825812412523=photo=0.4645538612648733=0.5690565818776447=1.5949367088607593
>
> which is tagged as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/666546115
>
> Yes, it works, I guess, but to my mind it looks ridiculous, & also errors
> in Osmose etc as an unconnected cycleway!
>

I would probably not model that way, the onramp should merge much sooner
with the motorway and that should be good enough, unless you start mapping
paint on the road.
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Re: [talk-au] Cycle tags on motorways

2022-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 13:17, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

>
> We should explicitly tag every motorway with bicycle=yes/no because some
> motorways allow bicycles and others forbid them.
>

& then you get situations like this:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-28.535651543577=153.53896264714=17=1164980277280563=photo=0.3457481526763355=0.5159430950498471=2.6582278481012658

then 100m further:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-28.536232873317=153.53874804183=17=387825812412523=photo=0.4645538612648733=0.5690565818776447=1.5949367088607593

which is tagged as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/666546115

Yes, it works, I guess, but to my mind it looks ridiculous, & also errors
in Osmose etc as an unconnected cycleway!

 Thanks

Graeme
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