Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-06-03 Thread Andrew Harvey
Thanks Andy for the update and everyone else for monitoring this. > * and separating the spammers from the poor single-business owners trying to add their legit businesses to OSM, of course. Any legitimate single-business owners would probably not follow the exact same recipe book the spammers

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-06-02 Thread Andy Townsend
(just to give a bit of an update) Some single account "description" adders are back (example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5658025380/history ), but they're not obviously part of the same group as the previous lot, so it's "as you were" with manual searching and reverting of obvious

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-26 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi all, just to let people know the admins have found a fair bit of commonality between the accounts behind the edits mentioned so far in this thread and have taken action* against them.  With a bit of luck, the spam torrent should reduce for a bit, but please let us know if it starts

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/05/2018 12:33, Andrew Harvey wrote: Thanks for doing the research on this! ... and thanks from me, too. On 21 May 2018 at 19:32, Andrew Davidson > wrote: After wasting many hours on this I've come to the conclusion that a

[talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread nwastra
I too have wasted a lot of time over many days trying to fix these problem edits and have come to the same conclusion. Trying to sort out what is right or wrong with each one cannot easily be solved by only referring to valid sources of data for use in OSM causing further dilemma. > On 21

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread Andrew Harvey
Thanks for doing the research on this! On 21 May 2018 at 19:32, Andrew Davidson wrote: > After wasting many hours on this I've come to the conclusion that a > zero-tolerance policy is the only real option we have. So I've now started > to just revert them without bothering

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread Andrew Davidson
Perhaps I should have said 1 in 4 *can* be saved, if you are prepared to donate your time to do someone else's paid job. Anyway if you are volunteering to patrol for these and clean then up, then you are welcome to it. On 21/05/18 20:52, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 21 May 2018 at 10:32, Andrew

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 21 May 2018 at 10:32, Andrew Davidson wrote: > 1 in 4 of these things are worth trying to save. > I've come to the conclusion that a zero-tolerance policy is the > only real option we have. So I've now started > to just revert them without bothering to look to closely.

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 10/05/18 17:18, Andrew Harvey wrote: These edits are hallmark seo spam, likely all done by the same organisation, following the same instructions. They all have the same traits (new username for each edit they make, named after the company, abuse the changeset comment with spam, never use a

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-10 Thread Philip Mallis
Agreed. Spent a lot of time removing spam business edits in and around Federation Square in Melbourne. They are fairly obvious spam accounts and I don't see benefit from trying to engage with them. Sent from my iPhone > On 10 May 2018, at 17:18, Andrew Harvey wrote:

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 10 May 2018 at 10:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > In reverting, OSM looses the information that these new people made. > OSM also looses a potential new mapper, as I doubt they will return > following their attempted addition being removed. > > There are large additions in some

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-09 Thread forster
Hi I have attempted to define SEO spam at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Spam#SEO_Spam It would be good to have guidelines on what to do with SEO spam, I am often unsure when to revert. My thoughts are that it can be immediately reverted if it looks like SEO spam and it either:

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-09 Thread Warin
In reverting, OSM looses the information that these new people made. OSM also looses a potential new mapper, as I doubt they will return following their attempted addition being removed. There are large additions in some parts of the world being made from commercial firms - eg petrol

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-09 Thread Andrew Harvey
This is a global problem, happening in other regions too, just unfortunate we're caught up in this as it's a real waste of time dealing with it. In a couple of recent ones they were trying to pan in iD but dragged features instead by accident, breaking other features. I've reverted these

[talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-09 Thread nwastra
Just a heads up that there has been a rash of poor edits in the past 24 hours or so with new editors listing their businesses but in doing so many have accidentally shifted other mapped items or added the wrong tags to their edits. Latest OpenStreetMap Contributors (last 7 Days) - Feed for