Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Ewen Hill
The Royal Flying Doctor Service (RFDS) have an Australian database of around 2200 airstrips and airports although not all are in use or are certified for use by the RFDS.These range from - Domestic/intl airports with regular commuter flights, - Local council run airfields like Colac and

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Ian Sergeant
I'd say there is zero chance that any fixed wing aircraft have used that strip in the past year. It's closed to fixed wing craft, and it's absolutely not safe for use. If it is approved redevelopment (it's NPWS land, not council) it will likely be redeveloped with only a single paved runway. My

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 19:59, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > Hi, > > I have redefined my query: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/PfU > Just looked at that query for SEQ - NNSW area & it appears that there are a lot of aerodromes not showing up? I understand that minor airstrips without IATA / ICAO codes

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think if there's some kind of distinguishable boundary from the imagery it's okay to convert to an area, even if it's approximate. There's not too much harm since you can always take the centroid if you prefer a node. On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 20:59, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > Hi, > > I have

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Nemanja Bračko
Hi, I have redefined my query: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/PfU Are you okay to manually add polygons around the airports only if they have *iata* or *icao* tags? Thanks, Nemanja On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:39 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 27/12/19 16:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-27 Thread Warin
On 27/12/19 16:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 15:39, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Node: Katoomba Airfield (1042094263) is a little difficult. I notice that the airfield is marked as "disused", but in the article, the new

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Phil Wyatt
/-31.8966/127.6155 Cheers - Phil From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 27 December 2019 4:38 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes On 27/12/19 09:44, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Folks, You also need to consider how yo

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 15:39, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Node: Katoomba Airfield (1042094263) is a little difficult. > I notice that the airfield is marked as "disused", but in the article, the new owner says they've had chopper flights come in over the last year? Should it be

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Warin
:* Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes Answers are in line. On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:10 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 17:33, Nemanja Bračko mailto:brack...@gmail.com>> wrote: @Berjo, as I've noted in my

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Phil Wyatt
: Friday, 27 December 2019 9:16 AM To: Graeme Fitzpatrick Cc: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes Answers are in line. On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:10 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Nemanja Bračko
Answers are in line. On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:10 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 17:33, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > >> >> @Berjo, as I've noted in my first email we do not have any other signals >> at the moment except imagery, and except for NSW where we have a base

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 17:33, Nemanja Bračko wrote: > > @Berjo, as I've noted in my first email we do not have any other signals > at the moment except imagery, and except for NSW where we have a base map. > So this would only be NSW? > @others, is it okay to make a polygon when we can

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread Nemanja Bračko
Thanks everyone for replying to this thread. @Berjo, as I've noted in my first email we do not have any other signals at the moment except imagery, and except for NSW where we have a base map. @others, is it okay to make a polygon when we can recognize tarmac on a airstrip and when we can

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread John Berkers
Hi Nemanja, It is worth noting that most airports/aerodromes in regional areas of Australia do not have control towers as they are centrally operated by Air Services Australia from one of 3 sites using remote cameras and such. The presence or absence of a control tower should therefore not be

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread cleary
I agree with Warin's comments. Some years ago someone did a mass import from a public-domain website with "airport" information. Personally I think of an airport as a location which is accessible to the public and which offers regular commercial flights. Most of the "airports" shown in

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread Warin
Many of these 'airports' have no effective boundary and are best represented by a node. Some are 'operated' by the local council and the council owns a large area of land around the 'airport'. Some may be 'operated by the local station (in American 'ranch') and they may own some 100s of

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread Nemanja Bračko
Yes. We do not have other signals. It is possible to miss official bounding box (when it is hard to see fence or when there is no fence at all), but it will be close enough and it will represent airport area. I could see that couple of airports have really rough approximation of the boundaries.

Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. That seems like a good idea. How will you know the bounds of the airport? Just from aerial photos? - Ben. On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 22:28, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > We would like to manually add polygons around airports

[talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

2019-12-25 Thread Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au
Hi everyone, We would like to manually add polygons around airports in whole Australia. We have added polygons for very few airports that were marked just with a single node. By using THIS OverPass-Turbo link, you can see that there are nearly 1,200 airports