Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-17 Thread Reuben
Perhaps someone should make a submission to the Productivity Commission inquiry if it is the former: Forwarded Message Subject: [talk-au] The Australian Productivity Commission public inquiry on Data Availability and Use. Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:35:35 +1000 To: OSM

Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-16 Thread Cameron Shorter
Hi all, I've been lurking on this list for a while, work in the Australian spatial industry (mainly deploying open source GIS software), and am interested in seeing government data GNAF incorporated into OSM. What gets worked out with OSM will likely be used for other Australian datasets as

Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/12/2016 1:50 AM, Simon Poole wrote: - the additional requirement to adhere to the AUS privacy regulations was not addressed in the response, which in itself would be a killer. It depends if it's part of the license or a reminder that in Australia there are other laws that may effect what

Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/15/2016 7:15 PM, cleary wrote: In regard to the Australian Privacy Principles, I think they have responded to our concern. On this issue, the earlier response stated very clearly that "We can also confirm that OpenStreetMap is not responsible for the actions of your downstream users."

Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-15 Thread cleary
I have had further contact with the Spatial Unit at the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet regarding the incompatibility of CC-BY and ODbL licences. I acknowledged their previous response but asked politely and respectfully whether it might be possible to review the situation in the

Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-12 Thread Simon Poole
The issues are essentially: - we did not receive special permission to distribute the data in OSM with attribution via the website. IMHO the permission we received for earlier versions boiled down to allowing us to sub-license on ODbL terms. This has now been implicitly denied. CC by 4.0 does

Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-11 Thread cleary
I am far from an expert and, like many others, I struggle to understand all the nuances. However, as I understand it, CC-BY-4.0 data can be used only if we are given explicit permission to use it. We asked for explicit permission and the request was declined. We had previously been given

[talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-11 Thread Andrew Davidson
Is the problem CC 4.0 or is it the riders that have been added? I'm just wondering if this is a general problem with the other data sets on data.gov.au. On 10/07/16 14:06, cleary wrote: Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet is