Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: It looks like it's half a military airfield and half a commercial airport and I've sort of split it up with a couple of relations but I'm not entirely sure what I've done accurately describes the situation. Is anyone familiar with Wagga airport able to comment further on the situation? Check out this link: http://www.airservices.gov.au/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YSWG_3-Jun-2010.pdf it may give you some more guidance. For anyone contemplating using these here is the copyright notice: http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/publications/aip.asp and they are quite strict on usage. -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On 23 July 2010 15:31, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:24:53 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: something else... Also I marked the RAAF taxiway etc as access=military although access=private might be more accurate since you can get permission to transit according the PDF... Only if your a civil aircraft on contract to the military (...all transient MIL and civil/MIL acft...), if the civil/MIL was civil then yes you could get permission. Anyone tagged roads with access=* on military bases? If so, what access=* value(s) were used? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:31:56 +1000 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:24:53 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: something else... Also I marked the RAAF taxiway etc as access=military although access=private might be more accurate since you can get permission to transit according the PDF... Only if your a civil aircraft on contract to the military (...all transient MIL and civil/MIL acft...), if the civil/MIL was civil then yes you could get permission. This should have read: Only if your a civil aircraft on contract to the military (...all transient MIL and civil/MIL acft...), if the civil/MIL was civil then you could NOT get permission. -- Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: It looks like it's half a military airfield and half a commercial airport and I've sort of split it up with a couple of relations but I'm not entirely sure what I've done accurately describes the situation. Is anyone familiar with Wagga airport able to comment further on the situation? There is an area which is a air force base areas which are general aviation stuff shared air traffic control and runways been inside the base twice but about 10 years ago now ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
It looks like it's half a military airfield and half a commercial airport and I've sort of split it up with a couple of relations but I'm not entirely sure what I've done accurately describes the situation. Is anyone familiar with Wagga airport able to comment further on the situation? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: It looks like it's half a military airfield and half a commercial airport and I've sort of split it up with a couple of relations but I'm not entirely sure what I've done accurately describes the situation. Is anyone familiar with Wagga airport able to comment further on the situation? Check out this link: http://www.airservices.gov.au/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YSWG_3-Jun-2010.pdf it may give you some more guidance. -- Babstar ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On 23 July 2010 14:39, Babstar babsta...@gmail.com wrote: Check out this link: http://www.airservices.gov.au/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YSWG_3-Jun-2010.pdf it may give you some more guidance. Thanks for that, it shows the airport split up more or less how I split the mutipolygon relations, it also highlighted an unpaved runway I failed to notice... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:39:05 +1000 Babstar babsta...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: It looks like it's half a military airfield and half a commercial airport and I've sort of split it up with a couple of relations but I'm not entirely sure what I've done accurately describes the situation. Is anyone familiar with Wagga airport able to comment further on the situation? Check out this link: http://www.airservices.gov.au/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YSWG_3-Jun-2010.pdf it may give you some more guidance. -- Babstar Not really usable as they are copyright. The airport is joint RAAF civil, when I worked there in 1986 the division was the edge of the apron between the control tower building and the hangars so what you have is fairly close. Other comments on this (and it's probably more of a limitation of osm) is that not all that you have marked as taxiways are. When the lines you've marked as taxiways cross onto an apron then the taxiway ends there so at the main apron from the yellow and red line where taxi 'C' crosses that is no longer a taxiway. Likewise where it continues onto the military apron. Also the filet lines onto the runway are not taxiways there only guidance lines the taxiways there join like a t intersection with no link roads. -- Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On 23 July 2010 15:13, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Not really usable as they are copyright. It was useful as confirmation, rather than copying... The airport is joint RAAF civil, when I worked there in 1986 the division was the edge of the apron between the control tower building and the hangars so what you have is fairly close. Other comments on this (and it's probably more of a limitation of osm) is that not all that you have marked as taxiways are. When the lines you've marked as taxiways cross onto an apron then the taxiway ends there so at the main apron from the yellow and red line where taxi 'C' crosses that is no longer a taxiway. Likewise where it continues onto the military apron. I had no idea what to tag those as, and there was nothing on map features page to describe these better, feel free to tag them as something else... Also I marked the RAAF taxiway etc as access=military although access=private might be more accurate since you can get permission to transit according the PDF... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On 23 July 2010 15:13, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Not really usable as they are copyright. It was useful as confirmation, rather than copying... Useful information for anyone else considering using them as well then. I had no idea what to tag those as, and there was nothing on map features page to describe these better, feel free to tag them as something else... Also I marked the RAAF taxiway etc as access=military although access=private might be more accurate since you can get permission to transit according the PDF... As I said probably a limitation of osm. access=military is good as that's the limitation rather than private. It is correct for the areas as marked. -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:24:53 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: something else... Also I marked the RAAF taxiway etc as access=military although access=private might be more accurate since you can get permission to transit according the PDF... Only if your a civil aircraft on contract to the military (...all transient MIL and civil/MIL acft...), if the civil/MIL was civil then yes you could get permission. -- Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
