Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-21 22:45, Jo wrote : Adding 1000 nodes to the OSM DB, which are meant to be deleted once again seems like some sort of pollution. I said: non obtrusive. That is, believed to be harmless. That is, not seen on the map, not retrieved by any application, just appearing on both OSMI and

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-21 21:40, Ben Laenen wrote : On Wednesday 21 November 2012 21:16:24 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: Can we spend the time you speak of checking that everyone's favorite Inspector is highlighting the errors and that they are not masking other errors or pissing off people. Ugh, this isn't about

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-21 Thread Sander Deryckere
Working with relations is very hard for new mappers. Just setting a tag is a lot easier. It's also harder for the tools. You can't just map the keys from the relations to the members, as it would mean that some ways should get two contradicting tags like "natural=wood" and "natural=water". I also

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-21 21:26, Ben Laenen wrote : On Wednesday 21 November 2012 20:52:50 sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: That's the current state of recommendation, but maybe we could start discussing it to see if that's a good idea to apply speed limits on roads inside a bounding polygon Polygons are a bad

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread Jo
Adding 1000 nodes to the OSM DB, which are meant to be deleted once again seems like some sort of pollution. On the other hand it would be possible to join them to the ways, since the ways need to be split anyway as the maxspeed changes there. Kaly nychta, Polyglot 2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-21 14:47, Sander Deryckere wrote : Always take some time, you knew that uploading 1000 POI wasn't going to be appreciated. Uploading bugs to OpenStreetBugs is very easy. A few lines of bash or perl code would do http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/API_0.6#addPOIexec

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium

2012-11-21 Thread Jo
Which is why it would be better suited to upload all the positions to Openstreetbugs, which can then be incorporated into the data properly. I looked at the text file. It's more than 1 year old. Is that the most recent version? Or was there another version in that thread? Does the .asc file contain

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium

2012-11-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 21:16:24 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > Can we spend the time you speak of checking that everyone's favorite > Inspector is highlighting the errors and that they are not masking other > errors or pissing off people. Ugh, this isn't about pissing off people, this is about imp

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-21 14:55, Ben Laenen wrote : On Wednesday 21 November 2012 14:29:31 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: I think I was clear enough presenting the options I knew to help this guy. No replies. Now that I have prepared the quickest option 1, I receive all sorts of contradicting replies. Why not before

Re: [OSM-talk-be] agglomération

2012-11-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 20:17:49 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > How is an agglomération tagged? > With residential ways? There's no real method that's in use right now to map built-up areas. Residential vs unclassified doesn't work at all in these cases. The method which is used most often is to

[OSM-talk-be] agglomération

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
Hi, I wanted to map the agglomeration of my village and I am wondering again. http://www.google.be/search?&q=agglomération site:openstreetmap.org -communauté as well as a wiki search returns very va

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread Jo
I may have a way to upload them to OSB. The API is indeed quite accessible. In order to take out the ones that are already in the OSM data, I can download all the maxspeed=30 with Overpass API and remove the ones which have end nodes near to them. I'll see what I can do with some help from PostGIS

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 14:29:31 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > I think I was clear enough presenting the options I knew to help this guy. > No replies. > Now that I have prepared the quickest option 1, I receive all sorts of > contradicting replies. > Why not before I did the job? You should alway

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread Sander Deryckere
Always take some time, you knew that uploading 1000 POI wasn't going to be appreciated. Uploading bugs to OpenStreetBugs is very easy. A few lines of bash or perl code would do http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/API_0.6#addPOIexec But the problem isn't in uploading to OSB or OSM, i

Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-20 10:40, A.Pirard.Papou wrote : Hi, A GPS addicts group has encoded a file of over 1000 30 km/h speed limits. Their leader has just discovered OSM, ITO Map, etc... He's promoting security much and would like his data into OSM. I wrote on talk-be that this was doing it the other way r

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [talk-be] )

2012-11-21 Thread Jo
If I understood him correctly he is going to create a bunch of OSM bugs, so no nodes should be added to the OSM database. These bugs can be fixed through the http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/website, or they can be shown in JOSM on a separate layer. To resolve the bugs, ways will need to be s

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [talk-be] )

2012-11-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 11:25:04 A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > Ja, это είναι waß yo will faire :-) > As there were no adverse reactions, I will globally move all the POIs to > OSM swiftly. Will you actually check whether there are nearby roads that already have maxspeed tags, or just dump the nod

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [talk-be] )

2012-11-21 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
Hi, Thanks for all the replies. I will add those POIs to OSM. This post is asking taggers and OSMOSE, OSMI et al customers to check that * the highlighted fake node's tags are correct and everything that's needed for the genuine way's tag * the nodes are, /*or what should be changed to be*