[Talk-cz] Spolek - oficialni udaje

2018-12-15 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, oficialni udaje o spolku doplneny na stranku na webu: https://openstreetmap.cz/organizace Bye ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz https://openstreetmap.cz/talkcz

[talk-au] Simpson Desert QAA line

2018-12-15 Thread Warin
Hi To me the QAA line runs east -west. It does not include the tracks that run south off it. This change occurred in 2012 .. change set comment indicates it was done while the lake was flooded. While these tracks exist .. I don't think they carry the name 'QAA line'. I have 'named' theses

[talk-au] Hello!

2018-12-15 Thread David Wales
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[OSM-ja] 提案:投票中 [Japan tagging/Access transportation mode]

2018-12-15 Thread yuu hayashi
Proposal - Voting - Japan tagging/Access transportation mode hayashiです 2018-12-03 に 「Japan tagging」のページに「車両種別」のタグ付け指針を記載しましょうという提案を「Proposal - Japan tagging/Access transportation mode」として提起しました。 提案ページ: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging/Access_transportation_mode

Re: [Talk-it] query con oggetti vicini

2018-12-15 Thread demon.box
Andrea Albani wrote > [out:json][timeout:25]; > node[noexit=yes]({{bbox}}); > way(bn)[highway=path]; > (._;>;); > out; Massimo Rispetto!! Questa query funzione alle grande ;-))) GRAZIE --enrico -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html

Re: [Talk-it] query con oggetti vicini

2018-12-15 Thread Andrea Albani
Il giorno sab 15 dic 2018 alle ore 19:58 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu ha scritto: > Il 15/12/18 19:20, demon_box ha scritto: > > beh... tanto vale la pena dirla tutta > > vorrei intercettare tutti i noexit=yes connessi ud un highway=path > > forse il mio ragionamento di utilizzare la

[Talk-it] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM error message)

2018-12-15 Thread Volker Schmidt
Da oggi mi appare un UJEM su ogni spostamento o modifica della visuale un popup che mi dice: "Error retrieving Cluster(s) Would you like to suppress further notifications" Qualcun altro l'ha visto. Qualcuno sa che cosa è? Chiedo qua prima di disabilitare uno a uno i plugin. Grazie Volker

[Talk-cz] Zacal import trafostanic v Praze

2018-12-15 Thread r00t
Ahoj, Dneska jsem zacal s importem, zatim jsem narazil jenom na male chybky v nastaveni POI importeru. POI importer s datasetem jsem nahral na server, pristupny je zde: http://www.r00t.cz/tmp/trafostanice/#map=14/50.1544/14.5048=Trafo (modre jsou uplne hotove, jinak klasicka barevna stupnice)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source = livre sous copyright

2018-12-15 Thread osm . sanspourriel
Le 15/12/2018 à 10:41, Christian Quest - cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Le droit de citation existe, mais le choix fait pas OSM n'est pas de s'appuyer dessus. De plus on ne cite pas, on intègre ce qui est différent. D'accord avec Althio. En plus : demander les droits c'est plutôt facile,

Re: [Talk-de] Feature Proposal - Abstimmung von "Empfehlung zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen"

2018-12-15 Thread Volker
Trotzdem habe ich abgelehnt. Gründe habe ich hier und im Forum ja dargelegt Am 15.12.2018 um 14:37 schrieb Tigerfell: Hallo, nach längerer Diskussion steht nun ein Proposal, welches sich mit der Verwendung von Multipolygonen ausschließlich in Deutschland beschäftigt, im Wiki zur Abstimmung .

[Talk-br] usuário addicionando addr:street em highway

2018-12-15 Thread Gerald Weber
Oi Pessoal este usuário: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Leal_Rastreamento está sistematicamente adicionando addr:street em highways, repetindo a informação na tag nome, junto com addr:city como neste exemplo https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/301697506 o nome do usuário já levanta suspeitas

Re: [Talk-it] query con oggetti vicini

2018-12-15 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 15/12/18 19:20, demon_box ha scritto: beh... tanto vale la pena dirla tutta vorrei intercettare tutti i noexit=yes connessi ud un highway=path forse il mio ragionamento di utilizzare la funzione "around" non è nemmeno quello corretto... grazie --enrico Per quello basta usare

Re: [Talk-it] query con oggetti vicini

2018-12-15 Thread demon_box
beh... tanto vale la pena dirla tutta vorrei intercettare tutti i noexit=yes connessi ud un highway=path forse il mio ragionamento di utilizzare la funzione "around" non è nemmeno quello corretto... grazie --enrico -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html

[Talk-ca] Voting for the two OSMF board positions

2018-12-15 Thread John Whelan
Of the 1057 voters in this election, 680 cast ballots. Tobias Knerr and Joost Schouppe have been elected. There has been some discussion about the number of board members with HOT connections, my understanding is currently the board has a couple of past presidents of HOT on it. OSMF only

Re: [Talk-it] Tablet con Osmand al posto del navigatore per il 118

2018-12-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 15. Dec 2018, at 10:10, Aury88 wrote: > > non mi sembra svenga vietato, ma semplicemente ne viene sconsigliato > l'utilizzo per servizi di emergenza. è chiaro: “You may not use the Services to: ... Operate dangerous businesses such as emergency services or air

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 15 December 2018, Colin Smale wrote: > "without access to the same sources" ... what if there is only one > source of truth? With these non-observable items like admin > boundaries that is often the case. Does "independent verifiability" > now mean that there must be at least two

Re: [Talk-cz] Spolek zapsan

2018-12-15 Thread Marián Kyral
On 14. 12. 18 19:31, Ladislav Nesnera wrote: Majka pravdu dí (y) Když jsem něco potřeboval zrychlit, posílal jsem vzdání se práva na odvolání

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source = livre sous copyright

2018-12-15 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Merci pour vos réponses. Pour répondre rapidement les données sont sous droit d'auteur car c'est une œuvre intellectuelle, quand j'ajoute un way dans openstreetmap je choisi son emplacement, le nombre de point, ses tags, et ceci est un choix de modélisation de la réalité fait par ma personne après

[Talk-de] Aufbau eines Social-Media-Teams für OSM in Deutschland

2018-12-15 Thread Michael Reichert
Hallo, seit einigen Monaten hat der FOSSGIS e.V. (genauer Dominik Helle und ich) Administrator-Rechte für die Facebook-Seite "OpenStreetMap Deutschland". Die Seite wurde und wird nicht wirklich gepflegt. Die Verlinkung der Wochennotiz geschieht automatisch durch IFTTT ohne Zutun des

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Colin Smale
"without access to the same sources" ... what if there is only one source of truth? With these non-observable items like admin boundaries that is often the case. Does "independent verifiability" now mean that there must be at least two sources that agree before this criterion is fulfilled? What

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Steven Clays
You could combine 'vicinal_type' with 'vicinal_ref', but then again, in one municipality everthing is on the signs as Baan, in the other it is Buurtweg and in yet another it is even Chemin (even in Flanders). Good luck with that... Op za 15 dec. 2018 om 15:38 schreef Steven Clays : > To make it

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Steven Clays
In the end, there is no legal distinction between a vicinal path and a vicinal road. We might even choose to delete that vicinal_type tag. On the other hand there is a lesser known vicinal_type = particular 'Particulier / Bijzonder'. For the vicinal_ref tag, there is indeed no straightforward way

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 15 December 2018, Colin Smale wrote: > Please choose your words more carefully. Sounds like [...] I meant exactly what i wrote here. For more details: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability http://blog.imagico.de/verifiability-and-the-wikipediarization-of-openstreetmap/

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Marc Gemis
I don't want to reconstuct the map from 1800, I want to map what I see on the sign. If I see a sign like https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2018/2018-10-07-Opdorp-Lippelobos/i-sFgCzRj, I want to somehow map "Lippelooweg / Buurtweg 57" and "Buurtweg 58", regardless of what a map from 1800 says. m.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Karel Adams
But - for as little as I am acquainted with this specific matter - I should think language-related terms should never occur in a reference? I would expect and indeed welcome them in a name tag, probably language-specific like name:nl KA On 15/12/2018 14:13, Steven Clays wrote: Indeed, that's

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Ben Laenen
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 14:59 Marc Gemis I suggested that, as I think it is an part of the ref. We do map "E19" > as well, not just 19. > I want to be able te reconstruct the sign as I see it during a survey. > Yeah but those words aren't very consistent in usage, do you take the French words for

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Steven Clays
Indeed, that's why. Actually, it is a good way to deal with the sometimes blurry denominations on the signposts. Op za 15 dec. 2018 om 14:59 schreef Marc Gemis : > I suggested that, as I think it is an part of the ref. We do map "E19" > as well, not just 19. > I want to be able te reconstruct

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Colin Smale
Please choose your words more carefully. Sounds like you are suggesting that everything needs to be dual sourced now. This kind of fundamental principle needs to be expressed with the same degree of care as a law, so it should be as simple as possible (but no simpler) and unambiguous. On 15

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Marc Gemis
I suggested that, as I think it is an part of the ref. We do map "E19" as well, not just 19. I want to be able te reconstruct the sign as I see it during a survey. On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 2:47 PM Ben Laenen wrote: > > One question I have: why are the words "chemin", "sentier", "voetweg" etc. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 15 December 2018, Colin Smale wrote: > > The whole point of the "verifiability" and "ground truth" > > principles is so as _not_ to have to rely on documents. > > First time I have heard that as a (documented) rationale behind > "ground truth". Independent verifiability, i.e. that you

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Ben Laenen
One question I have: why are the words "chemin", "sentier", "voetweg" etc. part of the vicinal_ref tag? Better just leave the number in there, the type of road is in the vicinal_type tag. Ben On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 12:33 Steven Clays Hello, > > I made a slight overhaul of the slow roads Belgium

[Talk-de] Feature Proposal - Abstimmung von "Empfehlung zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen"

2018-12-15 Thread Tigerfell
Hallo, nach längerer Diskussion steht nun ein Proposal, welches sich mit der Verwendung von Multipolygonen ausschließlich in Deutschland beschäftigt, im Wiki zur Abstimmung . Dieses folgt im Wesentlichen der Diskussion im Forum (https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64439

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source = livre sous copyright

2018-12-15 Thread althio
Bonjour, Je ne suis pas juriste non plus :) et voici ce que j'ai compris : La carte, le style cartographique, la représentation des données : - expression de la créativité de l'auteur : oui - le droit d'auteur s'applique : oui - license typique dans l'écosystème OSM : CC-BY-SA, mais libre de

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread François Lacombe
Le sam. 15 déc. 2018 à 14:04, Colin Smale a écrit : > First time I have heard that as a (documented) rationale behind "ground > truth". > > Surely the stronger requirement is public verifiability, from a freely > accessible, objectively reliable source. What is physically present in situ > is a

Re: [Talk-it] query con oggetti vicini

2018-12-15 Thread Andrea Albani
Il giorno ven 14 dic 2018 alle ore 22:51 demon.box ha scritto: > in realtà vorrei trovara tutti i nodi di un certo tipo che sono connessi ad > un highway=path, perciò pensavo di cercare tutti i nodi di un certo tag che > hanno nelle immediate vicinanze un highway=path: come posso fare? > grazie

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-12-15 12:54, Andy Townsend wrote: > The whole point of the "verifiability" and "ground truth" principles is so as > _not_ to have to rely on documents. First time I have heard that as a (documented) rationale behind "ground truth". Surely the stronger requirement is public

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Tomas Straupis
2018-12-15, št, 13:57 Andy Townsend rašė: > If I want to find the border > between Ireland and Northern Ireland, for example, I might not (yet) > find anything stopping me driving through but I will see something along > the lines of "speed limits now in mph" or the reverse. And then the

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/12/2018 10:40, Tomas Straupis wrote: What is "ground" in this term for non physical objects: 1. Physical place which could have some traces of an actual object. 2. Ground where non-physical objects actually live - documents. The whole point of the "verifiability" and "ground

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Steven Clays
Sure, thank you. Op za 15 dec. 2018 om 12:32 schreef Steven Clays : > Hello, > > I made a slight overhaul of the slow roads Belgium page, based on the > discussion of Friday December 14th. A new tagging scheme is also proposed, > seperating vicinal_ref and oficial_vicinal_ref. Links are restored

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Karel Adams
This matter is fully outside my are of competence, but the typo struck my eye. Please consider s/oficial/official/g On 15/12/2018 11:32, Steven Clays wrote: Hello, I made a slight overhaul of the slow roads Belgium page, based on the discussion of Friday December 14th. A new tagging

[OSM-talk-be] Update Slow Roads conventions Belgium

2018-12-15 Thread Steven Clays
Hello, I made a slight overhaul of the slow roads Belgium page, based on the discussion of Friday December 14th. A new tagging scheme is also proposed, seperating vicinal_ref and oficial_vicinal_ref. Links are restored and some pictures added. Comments and improvements welcome.

Re: [Talk-cz] logo OSM-CZ

2018-12-15 Thread Tom Ka
Pokud nenajde, muzeme nekoho i oslovit, ale i tak bude potreba dodat nejake zadani co je vlastne cilem. Tak o tom muzete zkusit pres svatky popremyslet a ja to zas po novem roce muzu vykopnout... Bye pá 14. 12. 2018 v 23:16 odesílatel Petr Schönmann napsal: > > Ahoj. Určitě se nenajde nějaký

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Openstreetbrowser, les cimetières et la religion

2018-12-15 Thread jabali
En France, comme ailleurs et indépendamment de toute confession, les cimetières sont des lieux où le caractère religieux - spirituel est profond. (également dans la laicité ou l'athéisme) Je les verrais mal considérés comme simple amenity. ( surtout que osm est une carte mondiale) Ce qui serait

Re: [Talk-it] Tablet con Osmand al posto del navigatore per il 118

2018-12-15 Thread riccardo pastocchi
C’è qualcuno che mi può mettere in contatto con qualche corpo dei vigili del fuoco che attualmente utilizza osm. In modo da poterci parlare direttamente e magari creare un gruppo apposito di scambio e condivisione. Grazie > Il giorno 15 dic 2018, alle ore 10:10, Aury88 ha > scritto: > >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source = livre sous copyright

2018-12-15 Thread Leo Gaspard
(deuxième tentative après l'utilisation de la mauvaise adresse mail source pour le premier envoi) Rpnpif writes: > Mais le droit de citation existe quand même quand le texte est > suffisamment court. Non ? Plus intéressant que le droit de citation… le droit d'auteur ne s'applique en fait pas

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source = livre sous copyright

2018-12-15 Thread Christian Quest
Le droit de citation existe, mais le choix fait pas OSM n'est pas de s'appuyer dessus. On ne parle pas ici du droit en général (et en plus à un niveau mondial !), mais bien de règles internes et choisies par OSM. Le sam. 15 déc. 2018 à 09:41, Rpnpif a écrit : > Le 14 décembre 2018, Christian

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Openstreetbrowser, les cimetières et la religion

2018-12-15 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
En France aussi il y a des cimetières exclusivement protestants, https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.49498/-0.80926 et un « carré musulman » dans l'enceinte de ce cimetières. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.49498/-0.80926 Le 15/12/2018 à 10:01, Rpnpif a écrit : Bonjour,

Re: [Talk-it] Tablet con Osmand al posto del navigatore per il 118

2018-12-15 Thread Aury88
dieterdreist wrote > Ho pensato da un po’ se dirvelo, e forse lo sapete, ma l’utilizzo di OSM > per servizi di emergenza è vietato. > Credo questo è stato introdotto a 9/2018, e mentre non ne ha parlato mai > nessuno (oppure mi è sfuggito), si trova qui nei termini: >

[OSM-talk-fr] Openstreetbrowser, les cimetières et la religion

2018-12-15 Thread Rpnpif
Bonjour, https://www.openstreetbrowser.org classe les cimetières dans la rubrique religion alors qu'en France ils en sont indépendants. -- Alain Rpnpif ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source = livre sous copyright

2018-12-15 Thread Rpnpif
Le 14 décembre 2018, Christian Quest a écrit : > Parce qu'OSM n'est pas Wikipédia et que les règles concernant ce qu'on peut > mettre ou pas dans OSM sont différentes de celles de wikipédia. > > Wikipédia exige par exemple que les informations soient sourcées, même si > la source est sous