Re: [OSM-talk-be] Westtoer / WVI
Thanks a lot Ruben for the translation. On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Ruben Maes ru...@janmaes.com wrote: - andere overheidsinstellingen zoeken (W-Vl eerst) * Find other governmental institutions (initially in West-Flanders) [To do what?] Collaboration, e.g. they mentioned that their is a department running servers for the geoloket or so that has experience maintaining servers. They think about AGIV as well. Cost-sharing for development of the course, organize meetings. When the organize meetings they were also thinking to invite commercial partners (even TomTom, Garmin to fund such meeting, in return for a pitch talk, if needed :-) ), but they are also thinking about high schools, professional organizations (landmeters), etc. There is a company that makes those devices for landmeters. They also mentioned an organization in W-Vl that is working around an app for wheelchair users (sorry forgot to write down the name). They want to inform those groups about OSM as well. So it is very early, but they really want to look for as many partners as possible. They want to advertise OSM in many possible ways. Ideas are welcome. regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Westtoer / WVI
Yesterday Marc met with Westtoer (the touristic service in West-Flanders) and WVI (the GIS coordinator of 54 of the 64 West-Flemish municipalities). He didn't have the time to translate his notes, so I tried to translate them into English from my understanding. If I misinterpreted, please correct it! I would like to thank Marc for his time and effort to do this. This cooperation sounds really really interesting. On 2 Apr 2015 07:26, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Westtoer wil echt aan de slag met OpenStreetMap Westtoer really wants to start using OSM: - Steeds als basislaag. Hun servers en stijl * They want it to be their default base layer, on their own servers and with their own style. - Controle tools (op hun servers) * They want to provide QA tools on their own servers. - Donatie van data, niet alles, bv. technische gegevens palen wandelknooppunten niet * They want to donate their data (not all of it though, e.g. not the technical details of the signs for the walking networks). - proberen feedback lus te installeren (wijzigingen in OSM terugkoppelen) * They want to create a feedback loop, so they can update their data based on changes in OSM. - sommige dingen willen ze zelf in OSM onderhouden, andere niet * Some things they want to maintain themselves in OSM, other things not. - zoeken feitelijk professionele consultant voor mee opstellen van cursussen rond OSM. (Syntra is gevallen). Ook iemand vanuit de community om daar mee aan te schrijven / te sturen. Denken aan 60 cursusdagen - cursus voor professionele GIS mensen van Westtoer en WVI. - cursus voor hun peters/meters van het wandelnetwerk om meer mensen op OSM te krijgen * As a matter of fact they are searching for a professional consultant to help organise OSM courses. (Syntra was mentioned.) They would also like to have someone from the community help writing/steering those. They are thinking of 60 course days. The course would be aimed at professional GIS people from Westtoer and WVI, and their 'godparents' of the walking network. This would be to get more people on OSM. - WVI gaat GIS medewerkers naar die cursus proberen te krijgen * WVI will try to get their GIS employees to follow that course. - gaan ook proberen sponsors te zoeken * They will also try to find sponsors. - andere overheidsinstellingen zoeken (W-Vl eerst) * Find other governmental institutions (initially in West-Flanders) [To do what?] - WVI denkt aan europees programma rond GIS om geld los te krijgen * WVI is thinking of a European GIS programme in hopes of getting subsidies for us. - WVI via gemeenten zoeken naar doelgroepen die interesse hebben om mee te mappen * WVI wants to search for groups that would be interested in mapping. They propose to work together with the municipalities for this. - Westtoer via hun peters/meters project (of andere methodes?) zoeken naar nieuwe mappers * Westtoer proposed to search for new mappers through their 'godparents' project. Or possibly in other ways. - Willen langdurige samenwerking, willen echt OSM vooruit helpen * They want a long-term cooperation. They really want to help OSM forwards. Ruben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Westtoer / WVI
Hi, Yesterday I have given a basic JOSM course to VGC - (Vlaamse Gemeenschapscommissie) people who never even added a single node. I managed to not bore them with talks about nodes/ways/relations. So in case your governmental organisation needs a governmental reference, they can always refer to Jan Verbelen jan.verbe...@vgc.be , he leads the 'Meet Weet Cell' and is totally into Open/Big Data and OSM. He's our supporter there. I've CC'ed him on this mail so Jan knows they can contact him in case they need to peer. The focus was to be able to add basic stuff, a road , a house and elaborate on the ways of working of JOSM/OSM. In total we had about 8 people and at least 2 of them were very enthusiastic and were totally on board. One woman didn't even want to stop mapping! I had a good feeling about this approach and it was fun doing it! It sure helps to get people up to speed, 1 day isn't enough to cover it all but I hope they got a jumpstart. I think this is a working formula. I don't think Syntra has the competence to teach OSM stuff in-house (at this time), so our community can probably assist there. Glenn On 02-04-15 11:29, Ruben Maes wrote: Yesterday Marc met with Westtoer (the touristic service in West-Flanders) and WVI (the GIS coordinator of 54 of the 64 West-Flemish municipalities). He didn't have the time to translate his notes, so I tried to translate them into English from my understanding. If I misinterpreted, please correct it! I would like to thank Marc for his time and effort to do this. This cooperation sounds really really interesting. On 2 Apr 2015 07:26, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Westtoer wil echt aan de slag met OpenStreetMap Westtoer really wants to start using OSM: - Steeds als basislaag. Hun servers en stijl * They want it to be their default base layer, on their own servers and with their own style. - Controle tools (op hun servers) * They want to provide QA tools on their own servers. - Donatie van data, niet alles, bv. technische gegevens palen wandelknooppunten niet * They want to donate their data (not all of it though, e.g. not the technical details of the signs for the walking networks). - proberen feedback lus te installeren (wijzigingen in OSM terugkoppelen) * They want to create a feedback loop, so they can update their data based on changes in OSM. - sommige dingen willen ze zelf in OSM onderhouden, andere niet * Some things they want to maintain themselves in OSM, other things not. - zoeken feitelijk professionele consultant voor mee opstellen van cursussen rond OSM. (Syntra is gevallen). Ook iemand vanuit de community om daar mee aan te schrijven / te sturen. Denken aan 60 cursusdagen - cursus voor professionele GIS mensen van Westtoer en WVI. - cursus voor hun peters/meters van het wandelnetwerk om meer mensen op OSM te krijgen * As a matter of fact they are searching for a professional consultant to help organise OSM courses. (Syntra was mentioned.) They would also like to have someone from the community help writing/steering those. They are thinking of 60 course days. The course would be aimed at professional GIS people from Westtoer and WVI, and their 'godparents' of the walking network. This would be to get more people on OSM. - WVI gaat GIS medewerkers naar die cursus proberen te krijgen * WVI will try to get their GIS employees to follow that course. - gaan ook proberen sponsors te zoeken * They will also try to find sponsors. - andere overheidsinstellingen zoeken (W-Vl eerst) * Find other governmental institutions (initially in West-Flanders) [To do what?] - WVI denkt aan europees programma rond GIS om geld los te krijgen * WVI is thinking of a European GIS programme in hopes of getting subsidies for us. - WVI via gemeenten zoeken naar doelgroepen die interesse hebben om mee te mappen * WVI wants to search for groups that would be interested in mapping. They propose to work together with the municipalities for this. - Westtoer via hun peters/meters project (of andere methodes?) zoeken naar nieuwe mappers * Westtoer proposed to search for new mappers through their 'godparents' project. Or possibly in other ways. - Willen langdurige samenwerking, willen echt OSM vooruit helpen * They want a long-term cooperation. They really want to help OSM forwards. Ruben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Everything is going to be 200 OK. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Westtoer / WVI
I've forwarded you mail to the people @ Westtoer and put you in cc. We were aware that Syntra does not have the knowledge on OSM, but they do have the knowledge (I hope) that they can create good course material based on our (community) input. regards m. p.s. nice to hear that your course was a success On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: Hi, Yesterday I have given a basic JOSM course to VGC - (Vlaamse Gemeenschapscommissie) people who never even added a single node. I managed to not bore them with talks about nodes/ways/relations. So in case your governmental organisation needs a governmental reference, they can always refer to Jan Verbelen jan.verbe...@vgc.be , he leads the 'Meet Weet Cell' and is totally into Open/Big Data and OSM. He's our supporter there. I've CC'ed him on this mail so Jan knows they can contact him in case they need to peer. The focus was to be able to add basic stuff, a road , a house and elaborate on the ways of working of JOSM/OSM. In total we had about 8 people and at least 2 of them were very enthusiastic and were totally on board. One woman didn't even want to stop mapping! I had a good feeling about this approach and it was fun doing it! It sure helps to get people up to speed, 1 day isn't enough to cover it all but I hope they got a jumpstart. I think this is a working formula. I don't think Syntra has the competence to teach OSM stuff in-house (at this time), so our community can probably assist there. Glenn On 02-04-15 11:29, Ruben Maes wrote: Yesterday Marc met with Westtoer (the touristic service in West-Flanders) and WVI (the GIS coordinator of 54 of the 64 West-Flemish municipalities). He didn't have the time to translate his notes, so I tried to translate them into English from my understanding. If I misinterpreted, please correct it! I would like to thank Marc for his time and effort to do this. This cooperation sounds really really interesting. On 2 Apr 2015 07:26, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Westtoer wil echt aan de slag met OpenStreetMap Westtoer really wants to start using OSM: - Steeds als basislaag. Hun servers en stijl * They want it to be their default base layer, on their own servers and with their own style. - Controle tools (op hun servers) * They want to provide QA tools on their own servers. - Donatie van data, niet alles, bv. technische gegevens palen wandelknooppunten niet * They want to donate their data (not all of it though, e.g. not the technical details of the signs for the walking networks). - proberen feedback lus te installeren (wijzigingen in OSM terugkoppelen) * They want to create a feedback loop, so they can update their data based on changes in OSM. - sommige dingen willen ze zelf in OSM onderhouden, andere niet * Some things they want to maintain themselves in OSM, other things not. - zoeken feitelijk professionele consultant voor mee opstellen van cursussen rond OSM. (Syntra is gevallen). Ook iemand vanuit de community om daar mee aan te schrijven / te sturen. Denken aan 60 cursusdagen - cursus voor professionele GIS mensen van Westtoer en WVI. - cursus voor hun peters/meters van het wandelnetwerk om meer mensen op OSM te krijgen * As a matter of fact they are searching for a professional consultant to help organise OSM courses. (Syntra was mentioned.) They would also like to have someone from the community help writing/steering those. They are thinking of 60 course days. The course would be aimed at professional GIS people from Westtoer and WVI, and their 'godparents' of the walking network. This would be to get more people on OSM. - WVI gaat GIS medewerkers naar die cursus proberen te krijgen * WVI will try to get their GIS employees to follow that course. - gaan ook proberen sponsors te zoeken * They will also try to find sponsors. - andere overheidsinstellingen zoeken (W-Vl eerst) * Find other governmental institutions (initially in West-Flanders) [To do what?] - WVI denkt aan europees programma rond GIS om geld los te krijgen * WVI is thinking of a European GIS programme in hopes of getting subsidies for us. - WVI via gemeenten zoeken naar doelgroepen die interesse hebben om mee te mappen * WVI wants to search for groups that would be interested in mapping. They propose to work together with the municipalities for this. - Westtoer via hun peters/meters project (of andere methodes?) zoeken naar nieuwe mappers * Westtoer proposed to search for new mappers through their 'godparents' project. Or possibly in other ways. - Willen langdurige samenwerking, willen echt OSM vooruit helpen * They want a long-term cooperation. They really want to help OSM forwards. Ruben ___ Talk-be mailing list
[OSM-talk-be] Westtoer / WVI
Gisteren heb ik samengezeten met Westtoer (toeristische dienst West Vlaanderen) en WVI (GIS coordinator van 54 v/d 64 W-Vl gemeenten) Westtoer wil echt aan de slag met OpenStreetMap - Steeds als basislaag. Hun servers en stijl - Controle tools (op hun servers) - Donatie van data, niet alles, bv. technische gegevens palen wandelknooppunten niet - proberen feedback lus te installeren (wijzigingen in OSM terugkoppelen) - sommige dingen willen ze zelf in OSM onderhouden, andere niet - zoeken feitelijk professionele consultant voor mee opstellen van cursussen rond OSM. (Syntra is gevallen). Ook iemand vanuit de community om daar mee aan te schrijven / te sturen. Denken aan 60 cursusdagen - cursus voor professionele GIS mensen van Westtoer en WVI. - cursus voor hun peters/meters van het wandelnetwerk om meer mensen op OSM te krijgen - WVI gaat GIS medewerkers naar die cursus proberen te krijgen - gaan ook proberen sponsors te zoeken - andere overheidsinstellingen zoeken (W-Vl eerst) - WVI denkt aan europees programma rond GIS om geld los te krijgen - WVI via gemeenten zoeken naar doelgroepen die interesse hebben om mee te mappen - Westtoer via hun peters/meters project (of andere methodes?) zoeken naar nieuwe mappers - Willen langdurige samenwerking, willen echt OSM vooruit helpen sorry geen tijd om dit in het Engels om te zetten. mvg m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
