Re: [OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-26 Thread Francois Gerin
Hi Joost, Thanks for your comment. For the trail_visibility: According to me, here the tag is fully relevant, the path is indeed sometime not visible, depending on the conditions, and users are mainly walkers, VTT and horses. That matches quite well the definition of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-26 Thread joost schouppe
I do not recommend trail visibility in a case like this. I think it is meant for real, usable trails, that just happen to be hard to see on the ground. To use it in this case, is almost troll tagging. Basically you are saying: there is a path here, but it isn't actually a path. less advanced

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-21 Thread Francois Gerin
Thanks for the comments, it confirms that it was relevant to share on this. It's already time to share a little more on my own conclusions then. @Marc Marc: Thanks for using option 3. The global/general idea to map only the reality is good and important, but what appears a contradiction here

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-21 Thread Marc Gemis
Seems my opinion is different from the other Marc. AFAIK, the OSM consensus is to map what is on the ground, in this case only the by-pass. You could keep the "official" path, with some tag disused:highway or so, but IMHO, that is just clutter that makes it harder for others to edit. When your

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-21 Thread marc marc
Hello, I like and use solution 3. but at the global level, somes mappers dislike to map/keep a path that doesn't exist on the ground anymore, despite it's an official one, and thus sometime delete it. the best is probably to contact an association that work for their conservation but I have no

[OSM-talk-be] hidden official path vs. unofficial by-pass : consensus?

2019-08-20 Thread Francois Gerin
Hi, Here is a probably subjective issue, that has certainly already been discussed, but I cant' find a search engine for the mailing archives. Problem: It's very frequent, in Belgium and certainly in many places, that a private or farmer steals a footway because he dislikes people pass there