Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-19 Thread Steve Singer
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, James Ewen wrote: We as the OSM community have chosen to accept the restrictions in order to be able to import HUGE amounts of data, but it leaves us with a quandary... how much modification of the imported data needs to happen BEFORE the attribution can be REMOVED? When

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-17 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi James, I feel that my answer leaved you with some (bad?) impression. Let me try to clarify. About replacing ways: I was just trying to remember everyone that - Common GPS devices produce tracks that have errors on it, - I would replace a way only when I'm sure mine is better, - The more I

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi James, (Thanks Daniel for the details) I think we need to fix up the wiki so that the page on Canada Importing Data (from all sources) is more clear (or maybe something bold at the top of the page?). That hasn't been done yet. Unfortunately. The idea for imports (of all types) is that the

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-16 Thread James Ewen
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote: 1- replacing ways I don't know the accuracy of a Blackberry but using a garmin gpsmap 60csx (waas on), I sometime get a 10 meters offset between tracks for the same way! I can not speak to the accuracy of

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-16 Thread john whelan
Multiple approximations can often be very accurate when averaged. We had an NMR machine on the 1st floor ( UK so twelve feet from the ground) that was fine until they built a four lane highway in the air outside. Lorries carrying steel do have cause problems to sensitive magnets. However we

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Barabanov
With averaging, if the random errors dominate the systematic errors, you will in fact have a better idea where the road is. IIRC, during the course of several hours ionospheric delays would cause systematic errors, but if you instead drive/ride the same road on different days, it's going to be

[Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-15 Thread James Ewen
Okay, I need some advise... I drove a nice little twisty back road today, and captured it with my Blackberry. I have the trace uploaded to OSM, and have looked at it in relation to the GeoBase way. GeoBase Way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31847379 GPS Track