Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
Ok, Christoph now that I am at a proper computer I can address your comments: *- no link to the source data* Have you read the background or just skimmed over it? There is a debate from StatsCan and the City of Ottawa where the building footprints should be hosted(Ottawa open data portal,

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
Bjenk said he will send me the agreement Friday when he's back at the office that will clear us for use of the data. On Oct 19, 2016 5:01 PM, "James" wrote: > I will contact Bjenk to get the agreement between StatsCan and the city of > Ottawa and update the permission as

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread john whelan
*And since the introductory paragraph on that page indicates there are* *organizations involved in the planning of this (Stats Canada and City* *of Ottawa) it would be important to know who of those involved in the* *import is acting in a professional capacity for one of these* *organizations**

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread john whelan
There were a couple of fairly critical dates that happened in the background. The first was Stats Canada wanting to announce they had gone live on October 17th that date was internal to them and only finalised very late in the day, the other was the Open Data license, we've been working with the

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
I will contact Bjenk to get the agreement between StatsCan and the city of Ottawa and update the permission as they have previously discussed licensing in OpenStreetMap with Ottawa's data and the result was that it was compatible On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Paul Norman

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-19 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Denis, hi Rps333, hi LogicalViolinist [3] Am 19.10.2016 um 08:31 schrieb Denis Carriere: > Ok this Ottawa reverting process is getting out of hand now! > Frederik (woodpeck_repair) is reverting entire user history without > looking at what his

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-19 Thread Denis Carriere
Ok this Ottawa reverting process is getting out of hand now! Frederik (woodpeck_repair) is reverting entire user history without looking at what his osm-revert-script is doing. *Before & After of Revert - More info with photos*

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-19 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2016-10-19 02:31 AM, Denis Carriere wrote: > > *Quick survey: *Who is even opposed to a Building Import in Ottawa I'm opposed to the word “opposed”, as good imports done properly do add value to the map. But this import wasn't done right, so I can't support the method. More later. Stewart

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
If you really need source data it will be available when the goverment makes up their mind where to host it. If you need it we have it in GeoJSON format here: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/addxy.com/ottawa-buildings.geojson Original file shouldn't matter anyways as it's full of errors to

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread Steve Singer
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016, James wrote: Seems like a good enough time like any other to talk about the import of Ottawa buildings and addresses into OpenStreetMap. Documentation is available here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan A few comments * Replacing

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
I have answered most of your concerns Stewart on the wiki. I will continue later today when I'm awake On Oct 20, 2016 1:04 AM, "Denis Carriere" wrote: > Stewart, > > The process was a success for me, the only issue was the data was bad... > I've been involved in

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
Steve, the only replacement, is if ottawa's geometry is better. There are a lot of buildings in Ottawa that are CanVec 6.0 which is ancient! Not to mention pretty crumby/blocky. As for manually mapped buildings like stittsville(AJ Ashton's buildings) just re-align it as they offset to

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread Denis Carriere
Hey Steve, James already answered a few of your comments, however I can expand a bit more on one of your questions/comment about the TM and the OSM tiles. > Are there examples of tasking manager coordinated building imports that > the community considers a success? If so how does this plan

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Please note my comments/concerns on the process here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan copied below — Initial Comments on Plan It would be helpful if the plan were structured more like the Los Angeles, California/Buildings Import

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Hi Denis, > There's been countless amounts of Tasking Manager's that have been set > up for importing GNS (towns & villages) in Africa, I believe all of them > were only point data and have been very successful. While it's not a reflection on tasking manager, the African village GNS import

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread Denis Carriere
Stewart, The process was a success for me, the only issue was the data was bad... I've been involved in importing some of the GNS data and it was a great set up Pierre and other OSM members set up. Bad data goes in, bad data comes out. Thankfully we have good data provided by the City of Ottawa

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread john whelan
A comment the data is of high quality and the building outlines are of particular interest to the Stats Canada Project where Statistics Canada is attempting to crowd source adding tags added to non residential buildings within the City of Ottawa and Gatineau. These include the number of levels

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2016-10-19 Thread John Marshall
Make sense to me. Adding turn restrictions is something I don't want to add. Happy to see all my Mapillary and OpenStreetView imagery being used to help improve the map. John On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Begin Daniel wrote: > Go with the recommended scheme as described

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2016-10-19 Thread James
Yeah no one really wants to do that, except maybe mapbox's india contractors On Oct 19, 2016 2:43 PM, "John Marshall" wrote: > Make sense to me. Adding turn restrictions is something I don't want to > add. > > Happy to see all my Mapillary and OpenStreetView imagery being used

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread John Marshall
Looks good to me. I only would add if there are multiple buildings and it is not not clear what the correct address are, local survey may be required. Then add a note like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/741666 John On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:57 PM, john whelan

[Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
Seems like a good enough time like any other to talk about the import of Ottawa buildings and addresses into OpenStreetMap. Documentation is available here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan Discussion with local mappers has happened in person for multiple

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
I have updated the documentation in the Risks and mitigation On Oct 19, 2016 2:49 PM, "John Marshall" wrote: > Looks good to me. > > I only would add if there are multiple buildings and it is not not clear > what the correct address are, local survey may be required. Then add

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread Alan Richards
I like it overall. Nice to see more quality data being added, and I'm personally pretty pro-import generally. However, just from following this list, I was surprised that the import was suddenly being done. I recall seeing messages about the possibility of a project, and it sounded like it was