Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white

2016-05-16 Thread Pierre Béland 
Plusieurs contributeurs sont a faire des modifications au polygone du 
Lac-des-deux-Montagnes. Cela va dans tous les sens et le polygone n'est 
maintenant plus fermé.
Svp venez discuter avant de modifier et enlever des sections.Je vois le 
contributeur Boff II qui a effacé une section sans commentaire dans son 
changeset.https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39357069
  
Pierre 


  De : Pierre Béland 
 À : Adam Martin ; Pierre Boucher 
 
Cc : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 
 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 12h00
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white
   
Malgré l'ajout de l'Ile Rita dans la relation Lac-des-deux-Montagnes, puis 
forcé affichage en demandant révision des tuiles png (par exemple 
https://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/17/38477/46892.png/dirty)
toujours pas d'affichage de l'Ile.
Je crois que ceci est dû à un conflit avec le polygone de la Rivière Rigaud. Ce 
polygone inclue une partie du lac incluant l'Ile Rita. De plus, le chemin est 
dans le mauvais sens. Pour les polygones délimitant les cours d'eau, la terre 
doit toujours être à gauche. Je vais corriger.
  
Pierre 


  De : Pierre Béland 
 À : Adam Martin ; Pierre Boucher 
 
Cc : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 
 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 10h20
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white
  
Dans JOSM,
L'Édition de la relation Deux-Montagnes, id=128586647
m'indique que les roles outer forment bien un polygone fermé. L'Ile Rita dans 
la Baie de Rigaud était absente de la relation. Je l'ai ajoutée.

  
Pierre 


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 À : Pierre Boucher  
Cc : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 
 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 9h44
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white
  
Something odd is going on with that area. If you look carefully at the lake at 
the closer zoom, the lower left side is filled in correctly and the rest is 
blank. Also, the Isle just above that (Île de Carillon) is displaying as water 
and it should be as land (inner portion of Lac des Deux-Montagnes). I traced 
the entire outer lake relation and it appears to be intact. The only oddity 
that I see is in that lower left portion 
-(https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.4975/-74.3210). In iD, it looks like 
this (https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/45.4992/-74.3287). Selecting 
that line indicates that this is defining the outer boundary of the La rivière 
Rigaud. I imagine that these are interrupting each other in some manner. That 
polygon structure may have recently been imported considering the line for this 
"river" runs completely straight across this section of the lake and into the 
ground there (still straight) and I am getting some trees rendered in that 
"river" area. Edit history there indicates that a user named Boff II 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Boff%20II) made changes to the Lake 13 
hours ago. Maybe he had something to do with it? Try contacting him.

Adam

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Pierre Boucher  wrote:

  Please help, Someone pull the plug at the buttom of Lac des Deux-Montagnes in 
Oka, Quebec (could be me or someone else trying to improve the map) The water 
area (blue at a zoom of 2km) dissapear (turns white at 1km zoom and closer).  A 
month ago everything was ok ( i guess ). Can somebody help?
  https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.4523/-74.1172
  Pierre Boucher  (Boff II in OSM)   
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Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white

2016-05-16 Thread Pierre Béland 
Malgré l'ajout de l'Ile Rita dans la relation Lac-des-deux-Montagnes, puis 
forcé affichage en demandant révision des tuiles png (par exemple 
https://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/17/38477/46892.png/dirty)
toujours pas d'affichage de l'Ile.
Je crois que ceci est dû à un conflit avec le polygone de la Rivière Rigaud. Ce 
polygone inclue une partie du lac incluant l'Ile Rita. De plus, le chemin est 
dans le mauvais sens. Pour les polygones délimitant les cours d'eau, la terre 
doit toujours être à gauche. Je vais corriger.
  
Pierre 


  De : Pierre Béland 
 À : Adam Martin ; Pierre Boucher 
 
Cc : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 
 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 10h20
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white
   
Dans JOSM,
L'Édition de la relation Deux-Montagnes, id=128586647
m'indique que les roles outer forment bien un polygone fermé. L'Ile Rita dans 
la Baie de Rigaud était absente de la relation. Je l'ai ajoutée.

  
Pierre 


  De : Adam Martin 
 À : Pierre Boucher  
Cc : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 
 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 9h44
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white
  
Something odd is going on with that area. If you look carefully at the lake at 
the closer zoom, the lower left side is filled in correctly and the rest is 
blank. Also, the Isle just above that (Île de Carillon) is displaying as water 
and it should be as land (inner portion of Lac des Deux-Montagnes). I traced 
the entire outer lake relation and it appears to be intact. The only oddity 
that I see is in that lower left portion 
-(https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.4975/-74.3210). In iD, it looks like 
this (https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/45.4992/-74.3287). Selecting 
that line indicates that this is defining the outer boundary of the La rivière 
Rigaud. I imagine that these are interrupting each other in some manner. That 
polygon structure may have recently been imported considering the line for this 
"river" runs completely straight across this section of the lake and into the 
ground there (still straight) and I am getting some trees rendered in that 
"river" area. Edit history there indicates that a user named Boff II 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Boff%20II) made changes to the Lake 13 
hours ago. Maybe he had something to do with it? Try contacting him.

Adam

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Pierre Boucher  wrote:

  Please help, Someone pull the plug at the buttom of Lac des Deux-Montagnes in 
Oka, Quebec (could be me or someone else trying to improve the map) The water 
area (blue at a zoom of 2km) dissapear (turns white at 1km zoom and closer).  A 
month ago everything was ok ( i guess ). Can somebody help?
  https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.4523/-74.1172
  Pierre Boucher  (Boff II in OSM)   
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Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white

2016-05-16 Thread Pierre Béland 
Dans JOSM,
L'Édition de la relation Deux-Montagnes, id=128586647
m'indique que les roles outer forment bien un polygone fermé. L'Ile Rita dans 
la Baie de Rigaud était absente de la relation. Je l'ai ajoutée.

  
Pierre 


  De : Adam Martin 
 À : Pierre Boucher  
Cc : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" 
 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 9h44
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white
   
Something odd is going on with that area. If you look carefully at the lake at 
the closer zoom, the lower left side is filled in correctly and the rest is 
blank. Also, the Isle just above that (Île de Carillon) is displaying as water 
and it should be as land (inner portion of Lac des Deux-Montagnes). I traced 
the entire outer lake relation and it appears to be intact. The only oddity 
that I see is in that lower left portion 
-(https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.4975/-74.3210). In iD, it looks like 
this (https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/45.4992/-74.3287). Selecting 
that line indicates that this is defining the outer boundary of the La rivière 
Rigaud. I imagine that these are interrupting each other in some manner. That 
polygon structure may have recently been imported considering the line for this 
"river" runs completely straight across this section of the lake and into the 
ground there (still straight) and I am getting some trees rendered in that 
"river" area. Edit history there indicates that a user named Boff II 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Boff%20II) made changes to the Lake 13 
hours ago. Maybe he had something to do with it? Try contacting him.

Adam

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Pierre Boucher  wrote:

  Please help, Someone pull the plug at the buttom of Lac des Deux-Montagnes in 
Oka, Quebec (could be me or someone else trying to improve the map) The water 
area (blue at a zoom of 2km) dissapear (turns white at 1km zoom and closer).  A 
month ago everything was ok ( i guess ). Can somebody help?
  https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.4523/-74.1172
  Pierre Boucher  (Boff II in OSM)   
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Re: [Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires

2016-05-16 Thread Pierre Béland 
Paul
Jean-Guilhem Cailton et moi avons adressé une requête à Airbus pour qu'ils 
accordent une licence d'utilisation des données. Nous avons obtenu de telles 
autorisations déja pour motifs humanitaires.

Je suggère d'attendre une réponse de leur part avant de modifier les données. 
 
Pierre 


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 Envoyé le : lundi 16 mai 2016 3h29
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires
   
 
 On 5/15/2016 4:00 PM, Dan Joseph wrote:
  
Hi, that url looks like the one from the gov't of Alberta web viewer. If that's 
the case it pretty clearly states on the welcome page (emphasis mine): 
 Satellite image source: Pléaides-1A © CNES 2016, Distribution AIRBUS DS, all 
rights reserved. Use of this imagery is subject to the Airbus Defence and Space 
Web License for Non-Commercial Use, January, 2015. Users may view the image; 
must not download, store, copy, transfer or reverse engineer the image in any 
way or use the image to create a database and/or a derivative work; and must 
contact AIRBUS DS to obtain a full license. Base Map Data provided by the 
Government of Alberta under the Alberta Open Government Licence. Cadastral and 
Dispositions Data provided by Alberta Data Partnerships. Other data are 
provided by the ministry of Alberta Environment and Parks (AEP). No base 
feature data can be reproduced or distributed without the prior written 
permission of the Government of Alberta.   
 Can you please clarify the source of the imagery and the licensing around it?
 
 Yes - that license is clearly incompatible with using with OSM as it 
explicitly prohibits what we do.
 
 Denis, how can I identify the changesets where you used that source?
 
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[Talk-ca] Water area (blue) turns white

2016-05-16 Thread Pierre Boucher 

Please help,

Someone pull the plug at the buttom of Lac des Deux-Montagnes in Oka, 
Quebec (could be me or someone else trying to improve the map)


The water area (blue at a zoom of 2km) dissapear (turns white at 1km 
zoom and closer).  A month ago everything was ok ( i guess ).


Can somebody help?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.4523/-74.1172

*/Pierre Boucher  (Boff II in OSM)/*

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