Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

[Paul Norman]

On 8/11/2016 5:53 AM, Kevin Farrugia wrote:
Yes - recently bootprint, andrewpmk, and I have been changing and 
correcting the name tags to destination in Ontario along the 
400-Series highways. If you see a ramp/link that is named, it's fine 
to change it over to destination or correct a problem you find with it.


Destination tags are based on what the signs say. The name tags tend to 
come from CanVec and are sometimes unrelated to signage, so make sure 
you check the signs before adding a destination tag.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

[James]

I dont see why not if we are making the map follow the standards, any
misstagging should probably be corrected

On Aug 16, 2016 5:21 AM, "Manohar Erikipati"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you Harald, James and Kevin for your replies. We currently follow the 
> proposed mapping methods in the Wiki [1] James had mentioned. We have 
> observed that there are name tags given for junction nodes[2] in which 
> destinations were given. Is this a previously agreed tagging method to render 
> destinations on nodes or is there any particular reason the name tags were 
> given to the junction nodes? Is it okay if we delete these name tags on 
> junction nodes now that we are giving destination, destination:street tags to 
> the  exit ways?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manohar
>
>
>
> 1. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info
> 2. 
> https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/8921295/17693961/387f991c-63bf-11e6-9a77-988221f47c41.png
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Kevin Farrugia 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes - recently bootprint, andrewpmk, and I have been changing and
>> correcting the name tags to destination in Ontario along the 400-Series
>> highways. If you see a ramp/link that is named, it's fine to change it over
>> to destination or correct a problem you find with it.
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2016 8:38 AM, "Harald Kliems"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Manohar:
>>> It is my understanding that including destinations in the name is an
>>> artifact of people tagging for the renderer (and/or tagging destinations at
>>> a time before there was an established tagging scheme). If you search
>>> through the talk-ca archives, you should be able to find some discussions
>>> on the topic.
>>>  Harald.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:25 AM Manohar Erikipati 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello everyone!

 Turn restriction sprint was met with an amazing response! We loved
 working with you all on adding turn-restrictions in Canada. We appreciate
 the timely help and suggestions we got which helped us add correct
 restrictions and to also maintain the quality of data we were adding on to
 OpenStreetMap. We hope that this support will continue further, as we are
 embarking on mapping exit numbers and destinations in the same 5 cities of
 Canada.

 We have made an easier workflow [1] with tasking manager [2] for adding
 exit and destinations. We would like your assistance, participation and
 continued involvement in the project. We have captured the details of this
 task here [3].

 After a preliminary look into the already mapped exit numbers and
 destinations, we have these observations:

 - We noticed that `destination` (places, cities) and `destination:ref`
 (highways) tags are being added to the nodes of exits as `name` tags.
 - Few exit nodes have destinations given in the `ref` tag.
 - The `destination:street` (towards streets, avenues, boulevard, rue)
 tags were not being used.

 To begin with, we have one question: Destinations given in the name tag
 of nodes is not usual protocol for adding these tags. We want to make sure
 whether it is valid or if we could change these tags to the `destination`
 based tags accordingly. For more details, here's the complete breakdown
 [4]. To reach out to more audience, we have captured this in a OSM diary
 post [5]. We would like to hear from the community about the agreed method
 of mapping exit numbers and destinations to take this forward.

 1. https://gist.github.com/manoharuss/3a1b4f640aaf2c052365fcb1ddb09beb
 2. http://cfn-tasking-manager-staging-vpc-387856624.us-east-1.e
 lb.amazonaws.com/project/20
 3. https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/220
 4. https://gist.github.com/poornibadrinath/9333f1489732c32c3ffa
 dd58e3068b7e
 5. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/poornibadrinath/diary/39246

 Thank you!

 Cheers,
 Manohar Erikipati
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Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

[Manohar Erikipati]

Hi everyone,

Thank you Harald, James and Kevin for your replies. We currently
follow the proposed mapping methods in the Wiki [1] James had
mentioned. We have observed that there are name tags given for
junction nodes[2] in which destinations were given. Is this a
previously agreed tagging method to render destinations on nodes or is
there any particular reason the name tags were given to the junction
nodes? Is it okay if we delete these name tags on junction nodes now
that we are giving destination, destination:street tags to the  exit
ways?


Cheers,

Manohar



1. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info
2. 
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/8921295/17693961/387f991c-63bf-11e6-9a77-988221f47c41.png




On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Kevin Farrugia 
wrote:

> Yes - recently bootprint, andrewpmk, and I have been changing and
> correcting the name tags to destination in Ontario along the 400-Series
> highways. If you see a ramp/link that is named, it's fine to change it over
> to destination or correct a problem you find with it.
>
> On Aug 11, 2016 8:38 AM, "Harald Kliems"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Manohar:
>> It is my understanding that including destinations in the name is an
>> artifact of people tagging for the renderer (and/or tagging destinations at
>> a time before there was an established tagging scheme). If you search
>> through the talk-ca archives, you should be able to find some discussions
>> on the topic.
>>  Harald.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:25 AM Manohar Erikipati 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> Turn restriction sprint was met with an amazing response! We loved
>>> working with you all on adding turn-restrictions in Canada. We appreciate
>>> the timely help and suggestions we got which helped us add correct
>>> restrictions and to also maintain the quality of data we were adding on to
>>> OpenStreetMap. We hope that this support will continue further, as we are
>>> embarking on mapping exit numbers and destinations in the same 5 cities of
>>> Canada.
>>>
>>> We have made an easier workflow [1] with tasking manager [2] for adding
>>> exit and destinations. We would like your assistance, participation and
>>> continued involvement in the project. We have captured the details of this
>>> task here [3].
>>>
>>> After a preliminary look into the already mapped exit numbers and
>>> destinations, we have these observations:
>>>
>>> - We noticed that `destination` (places, cities) and `destination:ref`
>>> (highways) tags are being added to the nodes of exits as `name` tags.
>>> - Few exit nodes have destinations given in the `ref` tag.
>>> - The `destination:street` (towards streets, avenues, boulevard, rue)
>>> tags were not being used.
>>>
>>> To begin with, we have one question: Destinations given in the name tag
>>> of nodes is not usual protocol for adding these tags. We want to make sure
>>> whether it is valid or if we could change these tags to the `destination`
>>> based tags accordingly. For more details, here's the complete breakdown
>>> [4]. To reach out to more audience, we have captured this in a OSM diary
>>> post [5]. We would like to hear from the community about the agreed method
>>> of mapping exit numbers and destinations to take this forward.
>>>
>>> 1. https://gist.github.com/manoharuss/3a1b4f640aaf2c052365fcb1ddb09beb
>>> 2. http://cfn-tasking-manager-staging-vpc-387856624.us-east-1.
>>> elb.amazonaws.com/project/20
>>> 3. https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/220
>>> 4. https://gist.github.com/poornibadrinath/9333f1489732c32c3ffa
>>> dd58e3068b7e
>>> 5. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/poornibadrinath/diary/39246
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Manohar Erikipati
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