Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

2017-10-31 Thread Stewart C. Russell 
On 2017-10-31 06:37 PM, James wrote:
> not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much
> processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI

what, the Shapefile that Martin linked to?

Anyway, I took a look at some of the problems in my neighbourhood. A lot
date back to Canvec road import from 2010 or so. Some are clearly
mis-keyings, others a bit more subtle:

* Eglinton Avenue should be Eglinton Avenue East

* similarly, there are a few Lawrence Ave Es that should be Lawrence Ave
East

* Looks like some heuristics got to Mackinac Crescent and made it the
faux-Scottish MacKinac Crescent. Even in Scotland we don't bother trying
to normalize Mac/Mc/mac /M' variants.

* a couple of 'St Clair' and 'St Quentin's, even though it looks very
unwieldy in full form: Saint Clair Avenue East

I'm fixing what I can, but it's dull work

cheers,
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Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

2017-10-31 Thread Kent Jacobs 
I’ve created an Eventbrite page for the mapathon.

 

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/carleton-university-building-canada-2020-openstreetmap-mapathon-tickets-39467928637?utm_term=eventurl_text

 

If you’re attending register here so I have an idea of how many people are 
attending.

 

Thanks!

 

Kent

 

From: Kent Jacobs [mailto:kent.jac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: October 31, 2017 3:33 PM
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

 

I just found out that Wi-Fi shouldn't be a problem. My thesis supervisor said 
he has Wi-Fi setup in the room next door and we could use it.

Now to get the word out there!

Kent

  _  

From: Kent Jacobs  >
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:45:06 AM
To: James
Cc: john whelan; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon 

 

Hi all!

So a room is booked for 2:30 pm to 5:00 pm on Friday, November 17 in the 
Carleton Loeb Building room A-200. 

I'm still working on the guest Wi-Fi access. If worse comes to worse.. I could 
probably log you in.

Kent

  _  

From: James  >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:43:43 PM
To: Kent Jacobs
Cc: john whelan; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon 

 

if its friday afternoon I'm available as well

 

On Oct 28, 2017 12:29 PM, "Kent Jacobs"  > wrote:

Tracey, would you be willing to look into room availability for Friday, Nov 
17th?

John, I know that students can access Wi-Fi through their student accounts. 
They should have a guest access as well.

Kent

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From: john whelan  >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:06:56 PM
To: Kent Jacobs
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org  
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon 

 

I'd go Friday then as making it easier for the students to attend should get a 
few more in and they are the target after all.  I don't think you need that 
many helpers unless the number of students is very high.

 

Those who aren't students will probably need wifi setting up.  An overhead 
projector with a laptop would be helpful.

 

Cheerio John

 

On 28 October 2017 at 11:11, Kent Jacobs  > wrote:

The advantage of having it on a Friday would be that students would already be 
on campus. 

Kent

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From: john whelan  >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:05:37 AM
To: Kent Jacobs 


Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

 

I can make it work but mon-fri works better because the buses are easier.

 

Cheerio John

 

On 28 October 2017 at 10:54, Kent Jacobs  > wrote:

Would Saturday afternoon (Nov. 18) work for everybody?

Kent

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From: James  >
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:58:12 PM
To: Tracey P. Lauriault
Cc: Kent Jacobs; John Marshall; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 


Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

 

On the weekend, people might be more available(work and school might prevent 
people)

 

On Oct 26, 2017 3:52 PM, "Tracey P. Lauriault"  > wrote:

Once you have a date let me know and I can check in on space.  THe ateium is 
grand, food is a monopoly situation, but if during the weekend we can work 
around stuff. 



On Thursday, October 26, 2017, James  > wrote:

Setting a time would also be in order, but I imagine this has to be figured out 
based on availability of rooms

 

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Kent Jacobs  > wrote:

Thank you all for the responses!

 

I would like to have this during OSM Geoweek, but that week is approaching 
quickly. It would make sense to first designate a time and space to hold the 
Mapathon. I was thinking November 16th or 17th. This is after Nov. 14th event 
at the Royal Canadian Geographic Society where I believe Statistics Canada will 
be giving a presentation on their OSM project 
(https://twitter.com/CarletonDGES/status/920993927934574592).

 

I am very familiar with the Carleton campus, so Loeb building could be an 
option since it is the location of the Geography department. Tracey, I hear 
that Richcraft Hall is the nicest building on campus though.  If anybody else 
is familiar with Carleton’s campus I’m open to location ideas.

 

Kent

 

From: Tracey P. Lauriault [mailto:tlaur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: October 26, 2017 9:01 AM
To: John Marshall  >
Cc: James  >; Kent Jacobs

Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

2017-10-31 Thread Pierre Béland 
Martin, utiliser MapRoulette pour une telle opération ne me semble pas 
approprié à moins de vouloir faire un simple Revert pour revenir à la situation 
précédente. Qui dit que les contributeurs connaitront les règles de jumelage 
Addresse - Nom de rue, les adresses individuelles ou les interpolations et les 
règles propres à chaque province pour l'écriture des noms?  Aussi, on retrouve 
souvent pour une même rue plusieurs éléments à corriger. Il vaut mieux les 
traiter tous simultanément. Dans JOSM, le style «Coloured Streets» permet de 
localiser les problèmes et de vérifier si les corrections sont correctes. 
Quelque 24h plus tard, une fois OSMI mis à jour, il est possible de réviser la 
zone pour s'assurer que tout est bien corrigé.
C'est la procédure que j'ai suivi pour le Québec en 2016 la requête Overpass 
ci-dessous pour extraire uniquement les données d'adresses et de rues. De cette 
façon, à l'aide du style «Coloured Streets», on visualise mieux les objets à 
éditer.
voir http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sIh
 
Pierre 
 

Le mardi 31 octobre 2017 18:40:29 HAE, Martijn van Exel  a 
écrit :  
 
 This comes directly out of OSMI, it may be useful to create a MapRoulette 
challenge or similar if we wanted to go that route.
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM, James  wrote:

not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much 
processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthew Darwin  wrote:

  
No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a while 
because you need to review the history of both the street and the address to 
see which one was most recently changed so you know which one to correct... 
plus add comments on the change that caused it to be out of alignment so people 
are aware.  (I didn't comment on every change... once I found a pattern, I 
stopped commenting).
 
There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because the 
address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive error, or the 
capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm waiting (for 3 months 
now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on what is the correct name and 
then I will fix either the street or the address accordingly.   So long way of 
saying, anything within the bounds of the City of Ottawa, I will fix.
 
 On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
 
 Hi all, 
  We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger than 
just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with a dump 
that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this pretty 
significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time, if you have 
any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks! Martijn 
  
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote: 
  Hi all,  
  Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the 
Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here: 
https://github.com/Telen avMapping/mapping-projects/ issues/34  
  This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest. 
  Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else. 
  Martijn   
  
  
  
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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

2017-10-31 Thread Martijn van Exel 
This comes directly out of OSMI, it may be useful to create a MapRoulette
challenge or similar if we wanted to go that route.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM, James  wrote:

> not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much
> processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthew Darwin 
> wrote:
>
>> No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a
>> while because you need to review the history of both the street and the
>> address to see which one was most recently changed so you know which one to
>> correct... plus add comments on the change that caused it to be out of
>> alignment so people are aware.  (I didn't comment on every change... once I
>> found a pattern, I stopped commenting).
>>
>> There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because the
>> address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive error, or
>> the capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm waiting (for 3
>> months now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on what is the correct
>> name and then I will fix either the street or the address accordingly.   So
>> long way of saying, anything within the bounds of the City of Ottawa, I
>> will fix.
>> On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger
>> than just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with
>> a dump that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this
>> pretty significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time,
>> if you have any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks!
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the
>> Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here:
>> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34
>>
>> This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix
>> soonest.
>>
>> Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere
>> else.
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

2017-10-31 Thread James 
not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much
processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthew Darwin  wrote:

> No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a
> while because you need to review the history of both the street and the
> address to see which one was most recently changed so you know which one to
> correct... plus add comments on the change that caused it to be out of
> alignment so people are aware.  (I didn't comment on every change... once I
> found a pattern, I stopped commenting).
>
> There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because the
> address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive error, or
> the capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm waiting (for 3
> months now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on what is the correct
> name and then I will fix either the street or the address accordingly.   So
> long way of saying, anything within the bounds of the City of Ottawa, I
> will fix.
> On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger
> than just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with
> a dump that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this
> pretty significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time,
> if you have any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks!
> Martijn
>
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the
> Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here:
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34
>
> This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest.
>
> Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else.
>
> Martijn
>
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

2017-10-31 Thread Matthew Darwin 
No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a 
while because you need to review the history of both the street and 
the address to see which one was most recently changed so you know 
which one to correct... plus add comments on the change that caused it 
to be out of alignment so people are aware. (I didn't comment on every 
change... once I found a pattern, I stopped commenting).


There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because 
the address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive 
error, or the capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm 
waiting (for 3 months now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on 
what is the correct name and then I will fix either the street or the 
address accordingly.   So long way of saying, anything within the 
bounds of the City of Ottawa, I will fix.


On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

Hi all,

We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is 
bigger than just around the ways that our team updated. I updated 
the ticket with a dump that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how 
to best approach this pretty significant fix up task. I will keep 
you updated. In the mean time, if you have any ideas for how to 
approach this, let me know. Thanks!

Martijn

On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel > wrote:


Hi all,

Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates 
by the Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is 
here: https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34


This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix 
soonest.


Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this 
anywhere else.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

2017-10-31 Thread Martijn van Exel 
Hi all,

We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger than 
just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with a dump 
that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this pretty 
significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time, if you have 
any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks!
Martijn

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the 
> Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here: 
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34 
>  
> 
> This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest.
> 
> Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else.
> 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

2017-10-31 Thread Kent Jacobs 
I just found out that Wi-Fi shouldn't be a problem. My thesis supervisor said 
he has Wi-Fi setup in the room next door and we could use it.

Now to get the word out there!

Kent

From: Kent Jacobs 
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:45:06 AM
To: James
Cc: john whelan; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

Hi all!

So a room is booked for 2:30 pm to 5:00 pm on Friday, November 17 in the 
Carleton Loeb Building room A-200.

I'm still working on the guest Wi-Fi access. If worse comes to worse.. I could 
probably log you in.

Kent

From: James 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:43:43 PM
To: Kent Jacobs
Cc: john whelan; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

if its friday afternoon I'm available as well

On Oct 28, 2017 12:29 PM, "Kent Jacobs" 
> wrote:
Tracey, would you be willing to look into room availability for Friday, Nov 
17th?

John, I know that students can access Wi-Fi through their student accounts. 
They should have a guest access as well.

Kent

From: john whelan >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:06:56 PM
To: Kent Jacobs
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

I'd go Friday then as making it easier for the students to attend should get a 
few more in and they are the target after all.  I don't think you need that 
many helpers unless the number of students is very high.

Those who aren't students will probably need wifi setting up.  An overhead 
projector with a laptop would be helpful.

Cheerio John

On 28 October 2017 at 11:11, Kent Jacobs 
> wrote:
The advantage of having it on a Friday would be that students would already be 
on campus.

Kent

From: john whelan >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:05:37 AM
To: Kent Jacobs

Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

I can make it work but mon-fri works better because the buses are easier.

Cheerio John

On 28 October 2017 at 10:54, Kent Jacobs 
> wrote:
Would Saturday afternoon (Nov. 18) work for everybody?

Kent

From: James >
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:58:12 PM
To: Tracey P. Lauriault
Cc: Kent Jacobs; John Marshall; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap

Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

On the weekend, people might be more available(work and school might prevent 
people)

On Oct 26, 2017 3:52 PM, "Tracey P. Lauriault" 
> wrote:
Once you have a date let me know and I can check in on space.  THe ateium is 
grand, food is a monopoly situation, but if during the weekend we can work 
around stuff.


On Thursday, October 26, 2017, James 
> wrote:
Setting a time would also be in order, but I imagine this has to be figured out 
based on availability of rooms

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Kent Jacobs  wrote:
Thank you all for the responses!

I would like to have this during OSM Geoweek, but that week is approaching 
quickly. It would make sense to first designate a time and space to hold the 
Mapathon. I was thinking November 16th or 17th. This is after Nov. 14th event 
at the Royal Canadian Geographic Society where I believe Statistics Canada will 
be giving a presentation on their OSM project 
(https://twitter.com/CarletonDGES/status/920993927934574592).

I am very familiar with the Carleton campus, so Loeb building could be an 
option since it is the location of the Geography department. Tracey, I hear 
that Richcraft Hall is the nicest building on campus though.  If anybody else 
is familiar with Carleton’s campus I’m open to location ideas.

Kent

From: Tracey P. Lauriault [mailto:tlaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: October 26, 2017 9:01 AM
To: John Marshall 
Cc: James ; Kent Jacobs ; Talk-CA 
OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

I am glad I provided the How NOT to do template ;)
Let me know when it is on and if I am free I will join!

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:38 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
I'm also available.

John

On Oct 26, 2017 06:17, "James"  wrote:
Hey Kent, I'd be glad to help out :)

On Oct 26, 2017 12:51 AM, "Kent Jacobs"  wrote:
Hello all!

I am a Masters of Science student in the Geography department at Carleton 
University studying Quality Assessment of OSM data for

Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

2017-10-31 Thread Kent Jacobs 
Hi all!

So a room is booked for 2:30 pm to 5:00 pm on Friday, November 17 in the 
Carleton Loeb Building room A-200.

I'm still working on the guest Wi-Fi access. If worse comes to worse.. I could 
probably log you in.

Kent

From: James 
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:43:43 PM
To: Kent Jacobs
Cc: john whelan; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

if its friday afternoon I'm available as well

On Oct 28, 2017 12:29 PM, "Kent Jacobs" 
> wrote:
Tracey, would you be willing to look into room availability for Friday, Nov 
17th?

John, I know that students can access Wi-Fi through their student accounts. 
They should have a guest access as well.

Kent

From: john whelan >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:06:56 PM
To: Kent Jacobs
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

I'd go Friday then as making it easier for the students to attend should get a 
few more in and they are the target after all.  I don't think you need that 
many helpers unless the number of students is very high.

Those who aren't students will probably need wifi setting up.  An overhead 
projector with a laptop would be helpful.

Cheerio John

On 28 October 2017 at 11:11, Kent Jacobs 
> wrote:
The advantage of having it on a Friday would be that students would already be 
on campus.

Kent

From: john whelan >
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:05:37 AM
To: Kent Jacobs

Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

I can make it work but mon-fri works better because the buses are easier.

Cheerio John

On 28 October 2017 at 10:54, Kent Jacobs 
> wrote:
Would Saturday afternoon (Nov. 18) work for everybody?

Kent

From: James >
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:58:12 PM
To: Tracey P. Lauriault
Cc: Kent Jacobs; John Marshall; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap

Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

On the weekend, people might be more available(work and school might prevent 
people)

On Oct 26, 2017 3:52 PM, "Tracey P. Lauriault" 
> wrote:
Once you have a date let me know and I can check in on space.  THe ateium is 
grand, food is a monopoly situation, but if during the weekend we can work 
around stuff.


On Thursday, October 26, 2017, James 
> wrote:
Setting a time would also be in order, but I imagine this has to be figured out 
based on availability of rooms

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Kent Jacobs  wrote:
Thank you all for the responses!

I would like to have this during OSM Geoweek, but that week is approaching 
quickly. It would make sense to first designate a time and space to hold the 
Mapathon. I was thinking November 16th or 17th. This is after Nov. 14th event 
at the Royal Canadian Geographic Society where I believe Statistics Canada will 
be giving a presentation on their OSM project 
(https://twitter.com/CarletonDGES/status/920993927934574592).

I am very familiar with the Carleton campus, so Loeb building could be an 
option since it is the location of the Geography department. Tracey, I hear 
that Richcraft Hall is the nicest building on campus though.  If anybody else 
is familiar with Carleton’s campus I’m open to location ideas.

Kent

From: Tracey P. Lauriault [mailto:tlaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: October 26, 2017 9:01 AM
To: John Marshall 
Cc: James ; Kent Jacobs ; Talk-CA 
OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Carleton University Mapathon

I am glad I provided the How NOT to do template ;)
Let me know when it is on and if I am free I will join!

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:38 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
I'm also available.

John

On Oct 26, 2017 06:17, "James"  wrote:
Hey Kent, I'd be glad to help out :)

On Oct 26, 2017 12:51 AM, "Kent Jacobs"  wrote:
Hello all!

I am a Masters of Science student in the Geography department at Carleton 
University studying Quality Assessment of OSM data for my thesis. I am also 
currently employed at Employment and Social Development Canada as a Geomatics 
Technician where I have been promoting the use of OSM data within the 
department.

I discussed the idea of a possible mapathon at Carleton University with 
Statistics Canada, the Carleton Geography department and Mapbox. I am reaching 
out (similar to Tim’s post above) to find additional OSM