Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
I believe Toronto has been waiting a couple of years for approval from the LWG to give you some idea of time frames. Cheerio John On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 18:05, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! > > To answer your first question: the non-building data sets (parks, > address points, bus stops, etc) are not currently importable without > further effort: we would have to get that exact licence (with text > including "City of Airdrie") approved by the OSM Licensing Working > Group. I don't know if the LWG would object to the attribution > requirements, possibly not, but the approval itself might take quite a > while anyway, as lawyer things don't move fast. > > --Jarek > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 15:42, Joshua Kenney wrote: > > > > Hello everybody! > > Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, > and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. > > > > I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets > available under an Open Data Licence: > > > > http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence > > The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional > steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? > > > > One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that > get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the > national data to compare the quality? > > > > --Joshua > > > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-ca mailing list > > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
Hi Joshua, Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! To answer your first question: the non-building data sets (parks, address points, bus stops, etc) are not currently importable without further effort: we would have to get that exact licence (with text including "City of Airdrie") approved by the OSM Licensing Working Group. I don't know if the LWG would object to the attribution requirements, possibly not, but the approval itself might take quite a while anyway, as lawyer things don't move fast. --Jarek On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 15:42, Joshua Kenney wrote: > > Hello everybody! > Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and a > couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. > > I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available > under an Open Data Licence: > > http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence > The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional > steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? > > One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that get > in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the > national data to compare the quality? > > --Joshua > > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
John, that was an outstanding overview of and answer to today's quite workable process. I can only dream that this be written up in whatever now guides this effort in OSM (BC2020 wiki, whatever). Congratulations on developing what looks like it now does allow and will eventually better allow nationwide building data to properly and further enter OSM. Good luck with your efforts, I genuinely mean that.Best regards,SteveA ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
For building footprints there are two sources of open data that are correctly licensed. One is Microsoft's building footprints and the other is the Stat Can released data. The Stats Canada data is basically the municipal data released under the federal government's licence. I suggest you first check with James and ask him if your city's data is in the Stat Can data set. The next step having sorted out a source of open data that has an approved licence is to work out a process to include the data. There is a single import of the Stat Can buildings in progress. However a Toronto mapper took exception to a million buildings being added mainly in the West of Canada and asked the DWG to remove them. A group of three mappers are looking at ways to "cleanse" the data using open source software. Once they have arrived at an agreed acceptable solution then I assume the Canada wide building import will continue in some way. So you can hang on or you can submit your own import plan. To do this the local mappers have to be in agreement. In Ottawa this meant we met over coffee. Then you need to formally write up an import plan in the wiki. Submit it to the import mailing list and answer any queries they may have. In this case Nate will probably say it is already covered in the current Canada wide import plan so why introduce yet another plan. It also has to be listed somewhere or other as an import. It also has to be discussed in this mailing group. The City of Ottawa was kind enough to adopt the municipal version of the federal government's open data licence. It took about five years from start to finish to get them to be nice and adopt it. It has been formally approved by the legal working group. If you can get your city to adopt the same licence great. In Ottawa it meant we could bring in bus stops etc. Any other licence should either be approved by the Legal Working Group or you can put your own interpretation on it. If challenged at a later date your imported data could be removed so I don't recommend this route. In short if you have a couple of local mappers in agreement that they would like to import the data, and if it is available via Stat Can and they find the data quality acceptable then ask to be permitted to import it on this mailing list. James maybe able to assist. Only if this route is not available should you think about doing something else. Cheerio John On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 3:42 PM Joshua Kenney, wrote: > Hello everybody! > Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, > and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. > > I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets > available under an Open Data Licence: > > http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence > The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional > steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? > > One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that > get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the > national data to compare the quality? > > --Joshua > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
While I don't see anything in the license that wouldn't be compatible with OSM except maybe the attribution placement: as osm maintains licenses on the wiki and not in the data it's kind of "not the same project" and you'd have to ask city if attribution in the wiki would be sufficient then go through the LegalWorkingGroup(4-6 months later) you might get an answer. It would be simpler if as Kevin said, they contribute to Statstics Canada open building database as the federal license has already been approved On Mon., Apr. 22, 2019, 3:46 p.m. Kevin Farrugia, wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > The national data that gets mentioned here is actually municipal data > rolled up into one federated Federal dataset to avoid licensing issues > since the federal license has been approved by OSM. > > As for the national import, that's for others to update you on 🙂 > > --- > Kevin (Kevo) > > On Mon., Apr. 22, 2019, 3:42 p.m. Joshua Kenney, > wrote: > >> Hello everybody! >> Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, >> and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. >> >> I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets >> available under an Open Data Licence: >> >> http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence >> The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional >> steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? >> >> One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that >> get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the >> national data to compare the quality? >> >> --Joshua >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
Hi Joshua, The national data that gets mentioned here is actually municipal data rolled up into one federated Federal dataset to avoid licensing issues since the federal license has been approved by OSM. As for the national import, that's for others to update you on 🙂 --- Kevin (Kevo) On Mon., Apr. 22, 2019, 3:42 p.m. Joshua Kenney, wrote: > Hello everybody! > Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, > and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. > > I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets > available under an Open Data Licence: > > http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence > The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional > steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? > > One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that > get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the > national data to compare the quality? > > --Joshua > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
Hello everybody! Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available under an Open Data Licence: http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the national data to compare the quality? --Joshua ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
