Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Adam Martin wrote: [ ... ] > I don't believe that > the postal data in Geocoder is particularly accurate. You can help, by improving geocoder.ca with the address information that you know. That improvement will help OpenStreetMap via nominatim. :-) The founder of geocoder.ca (yes, the one being sued by canada post) was a speaker at State of the Map - Buenos Aires, just a few weeks ago. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
One thing to remember about postal codes is that they are a delivery mechanism first and foremost. Unless Canada Post has changed things, they don’t have a location, per se, because they’re based on postal walks (the route the postman walks). Most postal codes refer to something like 11 dwellings, except in the cases of large volume receivers (apartment buildings and large commercial receivers) and rural postal codes, so any spatial reference is rarely going to be 100% spatially accurate. Cheers! --G From: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Sent: December 30, 2014 9:31 AM To: Stewart C. Russell Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season Hey Russell / all, I performed a rudimentary test of an address in the map without a postal code and later used the Nominatim to search for it to see what it produced. The address was 27 Cairo Street in St. John's, NL - I used this because it is an old address of mine and I know the postal code there without reference to Canada Post or the like. The result from Nominatim is A1B 3X9. The actual postal address is A1C 4X2 - a significant difference. I don't believe that the postal data in Geocoder is particularly accurate. Adam On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Stewart C. Russell mailto:scr...@gmail.com> > wrote: On 2014-12-23 12:27 PM, Richard Burcher wrote: > - I've removed the mention of postcode collection. I'm not sure of the > legal aspect of collection as raised in an earlier thread. > I've found that if you add an address without a postal code, then query Nominatim later, it returns the postal code. I suspect geocoder.ca <http://geocoder.ca> data is involved somewhere along the way. cheers Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
Hey Russell / all, I performed a rudimentary test of an address in the map without a postal code and later used the Nominatim to search for it to see what it produced. The address was 27 Cairo Street in St. John's, NL - I used this because it is an old address of mine and I know the postal code there without reference to Canada Post or the like. The result from Nominatim is A1B 3X9. The actual postal address is A1C 4X2 - a significant difference. I don't believe that the postal data in Geocoder is particularly accurate. Adam On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > On 2014-12-23 12:27 PM, Richard Burcher wrote: > > - I've removed the mention of postcode collection. I'm not sure of the > > legal aspect of collection as raised in an earlier thread. > > > > I've found that if you add an address without a postal code, then query > Nominatim later, it returns the postal code. I suspect geocoder.ca data > is involved somewhere along the way. > > cheers > Stewart > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
On 2014-12-23 12:27 PM, Richard Burcher wrote: > - I've removed the mention of postcode collection. I'm not sure of the > legal aspect of collection as raised in an earlier thread. > I've found that if you add an address without a postal code, then query Nominatim later, it returns the postal code. I suspect geocoder.ca data is involved somewhere along the way. cheers Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
Hi Folks, Thanks so much for the great feedback! Update: - I've removed the mention of postcode collection. I'm not sure of the legal aspect of collection as raised in an earlier thread. - Add several priority areas to help focus the mapping. - The generated tiles are the smallest the task manager will provide through the interface. There is an option to further split the tiles when a task is selected for editing. When you click "Start Mapping", underneath the drop down for editor of choice is "Task to big? Split". Click this to subdivide the tile further. Really excited for this:) Again, thanks for your feedback and help! Have a great afternoon! Cheers, Richard -- Please note: I only check email a few times during business hours. Richard Burcher 613-799-4240 Twitter: @richardburcher Blog: www.richardburcher.com LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM, john whelan wrote: > You might like to add in a few footpaths from Bing and compare the city's > cycling map to ensure that paths in parks are correctly tagged for cycling. > > Cheerio John > > Cheerio John > > On 23 December 2014 at 10:37, Richard Burcher > wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I've created a new mapping task for the Ottawa area [1]. I really want to >> make our local map super awesome:) I see adding buildings as one of the >> biggest projects we can undertake, so that local mappers like myself could >> start adding address data from local surveys. The task focuses on buildings >> and leisure areas but also asks those mapping to correct any obvious issues >> encountered. >> >> I understand it's a large area to map but I see this as a long term >> project. It's also something I'd like to use to encourage new local mappers >> to get involved with through our monthly meetups. >> >> Let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything in the >> instructions to make this easier to work with! >> >> >> Join me over the holidays:) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Richard >> >> [1] http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/9 >> >> -- >> Please note: >> I only check email a few times during business hours. >> >> Richard Burcher >> >> >> Twitter: @richardburcher >> Blog: www.richardburcher.com >> LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
You might like to add in a few footpaths from Bing and compare the city's cycling map to ensure that paths in parks are correctly tagged for cycling. Cheerio John Cheerio John On 23 December 2014 at 10:37, Richard Burcher wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've created a new mapping task for the Ottawa area [1]. I really want to > make our local map super awesome:) I see adding buildings as one of the > biggest projects we can undertake, so that local mappers like myself could > start adding address data from local surveys. The task focuses on buildings > and leisure areas but also asks those mapping to correct any obvious issues > encountered. > > I understand it's a large area to map but I see this as a long term > project. It's also something I'd like to use to encourage new local mappers > to get involved with through our monthly meetups. > > Let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything in the instructions > to make this easier to work with! > > > Join me over the holidays:) > > Cheers, > > Richard > > [1] http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/9 > > -- > Please note: > I only check email a few times during business hours. > > Richard Burcher > > > Twitter: @richardburcher > Blog: www.richardburcher.com > LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher > > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
It sure is -- as long as the postal code is coming from an appropriate source, e.g. a store receipt, a business's homepage, or your local knowledge. Maybe a note about that fact could be added to the instructions. Harald. On Tue Dec 23 2014 at 10:01:50 AM Tom Taylor wrote: > I notice you propose addr:postcode as one of the tags in your > instructions. Is this legal? I suspect Canada Post would object. > > Tom Taylor > > On 23/12/2014 10:37 AM, Richard Burcher wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I've created a new mapping task for the Ottawa area [1]. I really want to > > make our local map super awesome:) I see adding buildings as one of the > > biggest projects we can undertake, so that local mappers like myself > could > > start adding address data from local surveys. The task focuses on > buildings > > and leisure areas but also asks those mapping to correct any obvious > issues > > encountered. > > > > I understand it's a large area to map but I see this as a long term > > project. It's also something I'd like to use to encourage new local > mappers > > to get involved with through our monthly meetups. > > > > Let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything in the > instructions > > to make this easier to work with! > > > > > > Join me over the holidays:) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > > > [1] http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/9 > > > > -- > > Please note: > > I only check email a few times during business hours. > > > > Richard Burcher > > > > > > Twitter: @richardburcher > > Blog: www.richardburcher.com > > LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher > > > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-ca mailing list > > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
I notice you propose addr:postcode as one of the tags in your instructions. Is this legal? I suspect Canada Post would object. Tom Taylor On 23/12/2014 10:37 AM, Richard Burcher wrote: Hi Folks, I've created a new mapping task for the Ottawa area [1]. I really want to make our local map super awesome:) I see adding buildings as one of the biggest projects we can undertake, so that local mappers like myself could start adding address data from local surveys. The task focuses on buildings and leisure areas but also asks those mapping to correct any obvious issues encountered. I understand it's a large area to map but I see this as a long term project. It's also something I'd like to use to encourage new local mappers to get involved with through our monthly meetups. Let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything in the instructions to make this easier to work with! Join me over the holidays:) Cheers, Richard [1] http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/9 -- Please note: I only check email a few times during business hours. Richard Burcher Twitter: @richardburcher Blog: www.richardburcher.com LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
Fine with me. I've been mapping apartment and commercial/institutional buildings but not ordinary residences in my area. Does that seem like a reasonable priority, with the rest to be added later? Tom Taylor On 23/12/2014 10:37 AM, Richard Burcher wrote: Hi Folks, I've created a new mapping task for the Ottawa area [1]. I really want to make our local map super awesome:) I see adding buildings as one of the biggest projects we can undertake, so that local mappers like myself could start adding address data from local surveys. The task focuses on buildings and leisure areas but also asks those mapping to correct any obvious issues encountered. I understand it's a large area to map but I see this as a long term project. It's also something I'd like to use to encourage new local mappers to get involved with through our monthly meetups. Let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything in the instructions to make this easier to work with! Join me over the holidays:) Cheers, Richard [1] http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/9 -- Please note: I only check email a few times during business hours. Richard Burcher Twitter: @richardburcher Blog: www.richardburcher.com LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season
Hi Folks, I've created a new mapping task for the Ottawa area [1]. I really want to make our local map super awesome:) I see adding buildings as one of the biggest projects we can undertake, so that local mappers like myself could start adding address data from local surveys. The task focuses on buildings and leisure areas but also asks those mapping to correct any obvious issues encountered. I understand it's a large area to map but I see this as a long term project. It's also something I'd like to use to encourage new local mappers to get involved with through our monthly meetups. Let me know what you think and if I'm missing anything in the instructions to make this easier to work with! Join me over the holidays:) Cheers, Richard [1] http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/9 -- Please note: I only check email a few times during business hours. Richard Burcher Twitter: @richardburcher Blog: www.richardburcher.com LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
