[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Nominatim searches in Brum

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Doing some Brum searches with nominatim has revealed that we have some issues with place= conflicts. We have a mixture of suburb, town, village and hamlet nodes in Birmingham and the West Mids generally and sometimes this leads to unexpected results, like roads in Sutton Coldfield being in Castle

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] 1:25k OS OOC mapping for Stafford and Cannock areas

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I've added a few more OS 1:25k OOC maps in the north of our region, Stafford specifically: http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/?zoom=15lat=52.80764lon=-2.11929layers=000B0 The low zoom tiles will catch up at some point. To use this layer when editing see:

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Chance
On 14 February 2011 21:15, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: One rambling question for now... As one maps an area in such detail, what kind of principle do you operate when you encounter useful information that can't yet usefully[1] go into OSM for now. The blurry lines between pub, bar,

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Laurence Penney
On 15 Feb 2011, at 11:56, Tom Chance wrote: On 14 February 2011 21:15, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: One rambling question for now... As one maps an area in such detail, what kind of principle do you operate when you encounter useful information that can't yet usefully[1] go into OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Chance
On 15 February 2011 13:36, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: We have to... Why? If there are things that are undoubtedly cafe-bars in the world, with its main use depending whether you're a pensioner or a hipster (Bristol has at least 10 such on Gloucester Road alone), why on earth can

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Ed Avis
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2011/02/whats-in-postcode.html Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there some way of checking them against the OS OpenData postcode centroids? -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: Even if Mapnik doesn't like semicolons, Urggh, *I* don't like semi-colons, and I'd suggest that any solutions involving them are simply workarounds! Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Hi Lawrence, I tend to try and tag stuff with its primary purpose. If I really do think its more than one then I either split the object up (eg separate retail outlets within one building) or occasionally use a semicolon (like on bus stops to denote the multitude of route_ref's). Anything more

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 15/02/2011 15:32, Ed Avis wrote: Andy Robinson (blackadder-listsajrlists@... writes: http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2011/02/whats-in-postcode.html Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there some way of checking them against the OS OpenData postcode centroids? I

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Lawrence, One thing I forgot to add. On occasion where it's difficult to add stuff without it conflicting with something else (like a snooker hall over shops for example) I might make closed ways for the retail units and then simply add a node for the snooker hall. Better than ignoring the data

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed Avis [mailto:e...@waniasset.com] wrote: Sent: 15 February 2011 3:32 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2011/02/whats-in-postcode.html Great work! How can you tell when you

[Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap)

2011-02-15 Thread Ed Avis
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there some way of checking them against the OS OpenData postcode centroids? Just by being systematic. If you have Chillly's codepoint postcode layer sitting over BING its easy

Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap)

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed Avis [mailto:e...@waniasset.com] wrote: Sent: 15 February 2011 5:24 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap) Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there

Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes

2011-02-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 15/02/2011 17:23, Ed Avis wrote: Andy Robinson (blackadder-listsajrlists@... writes: Great work! How can you tell when you have every postcode and is there some way of checking them against the OS OpenData postcode centroids? Just by being systematic. If you have Chillly's codepoint

Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap)

2011-02-15 Thread Ed Avis
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: http://www.raggedred.net/codepoint/ I see - so you can use your judgement to work out the area of a postcode based on its centroid and the streets and buildings nearby. It's not that simple. You need to do the ground survey first to get the

Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap)

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed Avis [mailto:e...@waniasset.com] wrote: Sent: 15 February 2011 5:40 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap) Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: http://www.raggedred.net/codepoint/ I see - so you can use your

Re: [Talk-GB] Armchair-mapping postcodes (was: B72 is a wrap)

2011-02-15 Thread Ed Avis
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists ajrlists@... writes: OSM's coverage of streets is much better than its coverage of buildings. Might it make sense to tag postcodes on ways? Nope, streets often have more than one postcode for the properties on that street. It's not the street that has a postcode

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Hill
On 15/02/11 16:42, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM wrote: I did do a little experiment some time ago (but you do need postcodes assigned to buildings): http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/5333098864 I was going to write up some more but Chris Hill

[Talk-GB] Fwd: [OSM-legal-talk] per changeset relicensing

2011-02-15 Thread Matt Amos
i know being able to agree to the new CTs is a concern for some people, especially with sources which may have been used in only a small number of edits. one potential solution could be allowing each changeset to carry some relicensability information, as richard sets out below. there's a survey

[Talk-GB] A way of getting more footpaths done? - tagged track segments

2011-02-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Some of the comments on the Android apps thread over on talk got me thinking about approaches to try and get more of the UK rights of way network done, particularly by contributors who may not wish to use a full scale editor. Was thinking of a two stage approach, involving a relatively non

Re: [Talk-GB] A way of getting more footpaths done? - tagged track segments

2011-02-15 Thread SomeoneElse
On 15/02/2011 20:28, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Any feelings on this? First things first, more GPS tracks are definitely useful, even if there's no other information recorded. For example, if I've walked from A to B and recorded one GPS track, and no-one else has been there (which is true a lot

[Talk-GB] OSM Pub Meet Nottingham Tueday 8th March

2011-02-15 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
Just a quick announcement. A first pub meet for OSM mappers in the extended Nottingham area is scheduled for Tuesday 8th March at the John Borlase Warren http://osm.org/go/eu8ZoGm84--, Canning Circus, Nottingham NG7 3GD. from 19:30 onwards. Wiki page at: