[Talk-GB] West Midlands social reminder for this Thursday 7th April

2011-04-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Reminder that our next social is this Thursday 7th April from 7pm. Usual venue, The Bull, on Price Street, Birmingham http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Social_Meet_Up Cheers Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
For those not aware, Christoph Böhme put together NOVAM: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Novam A useful resource for checking out bus stop status in an area though I'm not sure of its current status with respect to data reliability. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Stuart

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: For those not aware, Christoph Böhme put together NOVAM: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Novam Oh, that is awesome. But instead of deleting the n:verified tag, I have set it to yes everywhere and sadly Novam sees that as

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Derick, I thought Christoph had it working with the various formats of verified. Try changing the scheme (bottom right) and see if that changes anything Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Derick Rethans [mailto:o...@derickrethans.nl] Sent: 04 April 2011 10:29 AM To: Andy Robinson

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: I thought Christoph had it working with the various formats of verified. Try changing the scheme (bottom right) and see if that changes anything I've tried already... and although it does change things, it doesn't do the

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The Birmingham scheme should show a naptan:verified=yes as green (assuming all other tags ok) as that's what I asked Christoph to add because I was doing the same as you, I.e. adding naptan:verified=yes rather than deleting the tag. Not sure though if it works for a plan verified tag without the

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The Birmingham scheme should show a naptan:verified=yes as green (assuming all other tags ok) as that's what I asked Christoph to add because I was doing the same as you, I.e. adding naptan:verified=yes rather than deleting the

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Tom Chance
On 4 April 2011 11:08, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I've stopped tagging route_ref because according to the wiki the preferred way to map bus routes is as a relation. Does that reflect the accepted practice in this country? As have I, so I have to keep switching between schemes in

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Ed Avis wrote: I've stopped tagging route_ref because according to the wiki the preferred way to map bus routes is as a relation. Does that reflect the accepted practice in this country? Same here. What uses the bus route data anyway? I do :-) And Harry:

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Ed Avis
Derick Rethans osm@... writes: What uses the bus route data anyway? I do And Harry: http://www.harrywood.co.uk /blog/2011/03/28/bus-route-rendering-at-rewiredstate/ My question was really a way to ask 'what format should bus routes be tagged in so that software can use them?'. I _think_ that

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/04/2011 11:08, Ed Avis wrote: I've stopped tagging route_ref because according to the wiki the preferred way to map bus routes is as a relation. Does that reflect the accepted practice in this country? What uses the bus route data anyway? Potentially anyone with a Garmin following the

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Tom Chance
On 4 April 2011 11:26, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: The trouble is, route_ref is directly marked on the ground. The path followed by a bus in the correct order, although it is more useful information, is also harder to discover. In the time it took to ride on a bus from Croydon to

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Ed Avis
What we seem to be edging towards is a mixed tagging of route_ref and relations, being respectively the 'rough' and 'proper' way to tag bus routes, and the need for some lint-like tool to reconcile the two - at least as far as migrating data from route_ref to the ideal tagging. If you just wish

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Tom Chance
On 4 April 2011 19:36, Stuart Grimshaw stuart.grims...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with tagging routes on a map is that they change s often. We saw during Sheffield's Transport Hack Day this weekend when the guys from our local travel authority showed us how bus routes don't just change from

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stuart Grimshaw wrote: Some routes stop after a certain time of day, or they follow a different route at weekends. They follow a different route for 1 journey before or after school and they go to different stops because of roadworks. To keep this information accurate you really would

Re: [Talk-GB] Rebooting the NAPTAN import?

2011-04-04 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 04/04/2011 19:36, Stuart Grimshaw wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: What we seem to be edging towards is a mixed tagging of route_ref and relations, being respectively the 'rough' and 'proper' way to tag bus routes, and the need for some lint-like tool