Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Jason Woollacott
Hi Bernard, Welcome to the GB Mailing List. I believe the simple answer is yes. There is a wiki page which you may have already found which lists which councils have released data which we can use. Norfolk is on that list. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_local_councils That links to a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 24 January 2014 07:29, Bernard Moore bcmo...@ntlworld.com wrote: Norfolk County Council offer Public Rights of Way data on this page :- http://maps.norfolk.gov.uk/inspire/ (last row of the NCC block). It is issued under Open Government Licence :- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/ …

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Jonathan
Hi Robert, Thanks for that extra info about licensing. I knew OS were at the route of most licensing issues to do with maps of the UK but not in what way, so that clears that up for me. However, my view would be that if a County Council has issued data under a license that we recognise as

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread SK53
For the sake of clarification: Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open Government License is not widely accepted in the community. Overall in the past 3 and a half years we have traced, imported or otherwise derived large quantities of data under this license. Mike

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:32:50 + SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: For the sake of clarification: Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open Government License is not widely accepted in the community. Overall in the past 3 and a half years we have traced, imported or

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 24 January 2014 11:32, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: For the sake of clarification: Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open Government License is not widely accepted in the community. In the light of OS's own interpretation that the OS-ODL is incompatible with the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread SK53
I don't think your last point is true: Mike was working to ensure data created under cc-by-sa could be similarly moved over to ODbL (a different matter). The relevant point is in this email https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2011-July/011998.htmlto the list: * Following my

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:25:14 + SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I for one prefer to rely on the formal and informal approaches taken on behalf of OSMF by the LWG. I also defer to the experience of Mike who has a long experience of running managing organisations generating and exploiting a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 24 January 2014 14:25, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: By all means say OSMf/LWG consider that OSGB OGL data can be included in OSM, but I personally avoid doing so ... But as far I I know, that would be incorrect. According to Michael Collinson's post at

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Mann
You need to formally ask: Any other dataset published under the OS OpenData License by other organisations, such as English Heritage, (or by OS if any). is unclear: ask who? Ask the organisation doing the publishing (eg Norfolk CC), or OS? My impression of the Mike Collinson dialogue was that

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
FWIW I have certainly had confirmation, more than once, that the someone else i.e Hampshire County Council agree and they appear to have got confirmation from the OS too. This is an OpenData licence set. I think some unambiguous consensus on this needs to be made clear by the OSMF or whoever

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-24 Thread Jonathan
+1 http://bigfatfrog67.me On 24/01/2014 17:53, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I think some unambiguous consensus on this needs to be made clear by the OSMF or whoever - as everyone seems to say different things which leaves many confused. I will still admit to having no idea as to whether I can use