Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Andrew Hain
My experience has been that although a missing FHRS entry is a useful warning of what to resurvey, there are too many false positives to remove businesses without checking on the ground. -- Andrew From: Gregrs Sent: 21 January 2018

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Gregrs
Hi Rob, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 03:58:37PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: I don't think it has been mentioned, but having the link to FHRS is one way of keeping on top of changes in places where we have fewer active mappers. That is, by monitoring for changes in FHRS we can identify closures,

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Gregrs
Hi all, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 01:12:07PM +, Mark Goodge wrote: If there has been a change of ownership, then yes, the old FHRS rating doesn't carry over to the new one. So it would need to be deleted from OSM as well. Whilst it's great to include the fhrs:id for an establishment and

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Andrew Black
Thanks everyone The pub I was looking at has a FHRS reference under its new name as "awaiting inspection". This is useful confirmation that its old inspection is not valid. On 21 January 2018 at 15:58, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi, > > I don't think it has been

Re: [Talk-GB] Camera and OSM leaflets

2018-01-21 Thread Rob Nickerson
P.S. the leaflet is an updated version of the one that has been translated an adapted over the years. It now looks like this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_flyer_FOSSGIS_2017_English.jpeg *Rob* On 21 January 2018 at 16:03, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi

Re: [Talk-GB] Camera and OSM leaflets

2018-01-21 Thread Dan S
Hi - good work. One thing not mentioned on that website - is there any particular use you'd like to see? Are there particular things in need of recording this way, eg urban or rural, high-traffic or low-traffic? Best Dan 2018-01-21 16:03 GMT+00:00 Rob Nickerson : > Hi

[Talk-GB] Camera and OSM leaflets

2018-01-21 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, In case you missed it in the recent OSM UK newsletter, the 360 camera is now available to rent. Please see https://osmuk.org/360-degree-camera-rental/ And as a reminder, thanks to the generosity of our friends in Germany, we still have plenty of the OSM leaflets to distribute. I will

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi, I don't think it has been mentioned, but having the link to FHRS is one way of keeping on top of changes in places where we have fewer active mappers. That is, by monitoring for changes in FHRS we can identify closures, takeovers, new cafes etc (assuming a detectable change in the source

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 20/01/2018 22:39, Andrew Black wrote: If a pub has been taken over by a chain (and changed name), should one delete FHRS info. My gut feeling is yes but. ... If there has been a change of ownership, then yes, the old FHRS rating doesn't carry over to the new one. So it would need to be

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Dan S
2018-01-21 12:14 GMT+00:00 Dave F : > > On 21/01/2018 12:09, Philip Barnes wrote: > > rarely accepted by the locals,... > > > loc_name IMHO keeping one old_name is good practice, in particular to allow a little lag time for people who might search OSM data for "the

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Dave F
On 21/01/2018 12:09, Philip Barnes wrote: rarely accepted by the locals,... loc_name DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2018-01-21 at 00:39 +, Dave F wrote: > Bearing in mind OSM isn't a historical database, how far back > should > we go with old:? These things are worth keeping, trendy names dreamed up by marketing types are rarely accepted by the locals, they will go on referring to a pub by

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Gregrs
Hi all, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:36:34AM +, Dave F wrote: I've been prefixing them with disused: as the fhrs:id will be probably be updated after a new review. I found keeping the old one was useful as a checking reference. Prefixing with disused, old or not could be useful. (I