On 08/08/2018 17:05, Stephen Doerr wrote:
On 8 August 2018, at 15:50, Sean Blanchflower wrote:
>I begin to fear I've caused offence in my recent editing, so apologies
if so. I'm just a keen OSM editor trying to add what I see as a valuable
omission in its database.
I for one am glad to
... even though technically, it was not Greater Manchester when I was born, it
was in my earliest memories.
Nick
From: Nick Whitelegg
Sent: 08 August 2018 17:03
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org; co...@thespillers.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county
On 8 August 2018, at 15:50, Sean Blanchflower wrote:
>I begin to fear I've caused offence in my recent editing, so apologies if so.
>I'm just a keen OSM editor trying to add what I see as a valuable omission in
>its database.
I for one am glad to have the boundaries of the 'real' counties in
Here in Yorkshire, people are very possessive (if that's the right
word!) about the old county boundary (i.e. pre 1974). Many people are
very aware of the problem (as they see it) that certain parts of
Yorkshire have been transferred to (or 'stolen by') Lancashire, or other
counties. They
Hi all,
I'm smb1001 and have been adding the traditional county boundaries
recently. DaveF kindly let me know of the discussion thread here so I've
joined Talk-GB to add my side of things.
I'm not alone in thinking the traditional county boundaries have a place on
current maps. It's unfortunate
On 08/08/18 13:54, Colin Smale wrote:
There are plenty of examples of "former" objects in OSM - closed pubs,
railway alignments etc. They are only still there because they are
perceived to have some kind of relevance in the present day. Can a case
be made that these historic counties are still
On 08/08/2018 13:54, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2018-08-08 14:17, Dave F wrote:
Hi
On 08/08/2018 12:14, Colin Smale wrote:
If this (probably completely static) dataset is used as a baseline,
at least these relations would have a verifiable source.
On 08/08/18 12:59, Dave F wrote:
How often do you believe people will actually want historic data?
Organizations archive for a reason. Consider your house, how things you
don't use will get shoved to the back of the cupboard/shed.
I live in a Roman city, the editors struggle to display current
On 2018-08-08 14:17, Dave F wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On 08/08/2018 12:14, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> If this (probably completely static) dataset is used as a baseline, at least
>> these relations would have a verifiable source.
>>
>>
Hi
On 08/08/2018 12:14, Colin Smale wrote:
The OS publish boundaries for historic counties, so one could say
these boundaries are the current boundaries for the historic counties.
To me that's an oxymoron.
If this (probably completely static) dataset is used as a baseline, at
least
On 08/08/2018 12:05, Lester Caine wrote:
On 08/08/18 10:56, Dave F wrote:
On 08/08/2018 09:54, Lester Caine wrote:
we are now in a situation where much accurately mapped material is
simply dumped when there is a change to the current situation.
1. it's not dumped, it's still in the
The OS publish boundaries for historic counties, so one could say these
boundaries are the current boundaries for the historic counties. If this
(probably completely static) dataset is used as a baseline, at least
these relations would have a verifiable source.
On 08/08/18 11:49, David Woolley wrote:
I think people are overlooking the original use case for suppressing C
references, which was that they confused satellite navigator users. As I
pointed out before, this is really an attribute of the particular turn
onto the road, not the road itself.
On 08/08/18 10:56, Dave F wrote:
On 08/08/2018 09:54, Lester Caine wrote:
we are now in a situation where much accurately mapped material is
simply dumped when there is a change to the current situation.
1. it's not dumped, it's still in the database as a historic version.
2. Changes almost
On 08/08/18 10:34, Dave F wrote:
On 08/08/2018 08:30, Andy Townsend wrote:
The tags "highway_authority_ref" "admin_ref" and "official_ref" are
assumed to be unsigned.
One of the items on my 'things to do' list was to search for &
amalgamate any 'this road is signed' tags.
The last
I think people are overlooking the original use case for suppressing C
references, which was that they confused satellite navigator users. As I
pointed out before, this is really an attribute of the particular turn
onto the road, not the road itself. The fact that a road (A, B, or C)
may have
On 07/08/2018 20:48, Dave F wrote:
Hi
User smb1001 is currently adding county boundary relations with
boundary=historic through out the UK:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ASf (May take a while to run)
Changeset discussion:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61410203
From the historic
Hi
On 08/08/2018 09:54, Lester Caine wrote:
we are now in a situation where much accurately mapped material is
simply dumped when there is a change to the current situation.
1. it's not dumped, it's still in the database as a historic version.
2. Changes almost always increase the accuracy &
On 08/08/18 09:54, Lester Caine wrote:
They should be moved to OHM but then ANY information that is superseded
should be automatically archived to SOMETHING since we are now in a
situation where much accurately mapped material is simply dumped when
there is a change to the current situation.
On 07/08/18 20:48, Dave F wrote:
User smb1001 is currently adding county boundary relations with
boundary=historic through out the UK:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ASf (May take a while to run)
Changeset discussion:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61410203
From the historic wiki page
On 08/08/18 08:30, Andy Townsend wrote:
There are combinations that aren't handled perfectly (especially where
roads have a mixture of different refs) and I'll look at some of these
edge cases later. Hopefully though as things stand it's useful to
people who really want to see these
In the 8 am radio 4 news today there was an item about the British Heart
Foundation creating a database of AED locations because these are often
not known to people. Although not the BBC, this is another article
based on the same news release:
For completeness, I have updated https://map.atownsend.org.uk to show
unsigned road names in brackets and unsigned refs in brackets at the end
of the name. The tags "highway_authority_ref" "admin_ref" and
"official_ref" are assumed to be unsigned.
Examples:
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