Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Nick
Could the data be included in https://osm.mathmos.net/survey/ ? On 21/07/2020 22:42, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-07-21 22:54, Mark Goodge wrote: It's the errors which are more of a problem, because it's generally better not to map something than to map it wrongly. This is a difficult point.

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-07-21 22:54, Mark Goodge wrote: > It's the errors which are more of a problem, because it's generally better > not to map something than to map it wrongly. This is a difficult point. Data is never 100% complete, and frequently not 100% accurate. At what point it becomes better not to

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Chris Hill
On 21/07/2020 21:54, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 21:27, ael wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:30:25PM +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 21/07/2020 21:27, ael wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:30:25PM +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread ael
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:30:25PM +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: > > Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not > > somebody should write a nice enough letter? > > It is open, it's OGL now. But it's not reliable

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 21/07/2020 20:56, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 21/07/2020 17:30, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But it's

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 21/07/2020 17:30, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import;

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 17:30 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: > But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import; there are > duplicate entries, incorrect coordinates and incorrect or missing > addresses. We could turn this into an advantage of Open Data and OSM. Validation of other datasets

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Kai Michael Poppe - OSM
Again, this sounds like a perfect job for MapRoulette where the NCR goes into a GeoJSON and people get to work on that data with what's in OSM already - the part that requires effort is to correct what's bogus ;) K Am 21. Juli 2020 18:30:25 MESZ schrieb Mark Goodge : > > >On 21/07/2020 16:57,

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import; there are duplicate entries, incorrect

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Kai Michael Poppe - OSM
Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? Kai Am 21. Juli 2020 17:16:59 MESZ schrieb Mark Goodge : > > >On 21/07/2020 12:58, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: >> 1538 nationwide. > >Which is a long way short of the 10,000+ listed in

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 21/07/2020 12:58, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: 1538 nationwide. Which is a long way short of the 10,000+ listed in the National Chargepoint Registry. Use this to see what other tags contributors are adding. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Wia It seems to be patchy, and very dependent on

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Lester Caine
On 21/07/2020 12:42, Nick wrote: Hi Lester Rob has suggested a matching USRN tag You make a good point regarding upper and lower case. Perhaps the tag should be ref:GB:UPRN in line with normal convention of referring to UPRN in upper case? I was only thinking about the country code as I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Local Wildlife Sites

2020-07-21 Thread SK53
Yes, am reasonably familiar with ones in Notts & Derbys. A friend led the initial survey work (Phase 1 habitat) back in the 1970s, other friends were surveyors. Some LAs do have these as data on their GIS systems (Nottingham & Nottinghamshire for instance), others have lists (RBWM). I understand

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread ael
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:58:53AM +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: > Do we map electric vehicle charging points? Yes. ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Part of highway=street_lamp, similarly to street lamps mounted on power poles. Though it is yet another case of tricky difference between fuel stations that have quite standard size and charging spots ranging in size from such minor ones to bigger features... Jul 21, 2020, 14:47 by

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Jez Nicholson
My Council has introduced 200+ lamp post mounted charging points https://www.instagram.com/p/B_Fm7L8nOL8/ Would you give that its own node? or as part of Tag:highway=street_lamp? On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:13 PM Dave F via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > On 21/07/2020 12:10, Chris

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 21/07/2020 12:10, Chris Hill wrote: Leccy car drivers need to know if the point is working. Apps from the charge point suppliers and from others such as Zapmap try to keep drivers informed about the availability and condition of the point. OSM doesn't have that info and can't update it in

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/07/2020 12:03, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hi Mark, there's a pretty detailled article in the wiki for e-charging and all the options that come with it: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station So yeah, I guess, mapping them is totally OK. Kai Mark Goodge hat am

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
1538 nationwide. Use this to see what other tags contributors are adding. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Wia DaveF On 21/07/2020 11:58, Mark Goodge wrote: Do we map electric vehicle charging points? If not, should we? None of the ones in my town are on OSM, at the moment. I could add them,

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Nick
Hi Lester Rob has suggested a matching USRN tag You make a good point regarding upper and lower case. Perhaps the tag should be ref:GB:UPRN in line with normal convention of referring to UPRN in upper case? Nick On 21/07/2020 10:34, Lester Caine wrote: On 20/07/2020 22:11, Rob Nickerson

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Chris Hill
Leccy car drivers need to know if the point is working. Apps from the charge point suppliers and from others such as Zapmap try to keep drivers informed about the availability and condition of the point. OSM doesn't have that info and can't update it in real time. Some leccy cars have this live

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread osm
Hi Mark, there's a pretty detailled article in the wiki for e-charging and all the options that come with it: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station So yeah, I guess, mapping them is totally OK. Kai > Mark Goodge hat am 21. Juli 2020 um 12:58 geschrieben: > > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Simon Still Gmail
I’ve been adding them in My area. The tagging is established Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Jul 2020, at 12:00, Mark Goodge wrote: > > Do we map electric vehicle charging points? If not, should we? > > None of the ones in my town are on OSM, at the moment. I could add them, but > it seems a

[Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Goodge
Do we map electric vehicle charging points? If not, should we? None of the ones in my town are on OSM, at the moment. I could add them, but it seems a bit pointless if they're not generally mapped. Mark ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/07/2020 22:11, Rob Nickerson wrote: If there are no red flags I will move for a vote. Looks sensible to me but will there be a matching usrn tag? I see the occasional use of :gb: on other tags and any 'convention' on upper or lower case is possibly an international one, but I'm not sure

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Excellent proposal. No problems that I can see. Peter >On Tuesday, 21 July 2020, 09:18:02 BST, Tony OSM wrote: >Thanks for the effort. >No problem to vote for this, no "red flags" for me. >Tony >>On 20/07/2020 22:11, Rob Nickerson wrote: >>Hi all, >>As discussed at

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Tony OSM
Thanks for the effort. No problem to vote for this, no "red flags" for me. Tony On 20/07/2020 22:11, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, As discussed at the State of the Map online workshop, I took away an action to draft a proposal page for ref:GB:uprn. This page is now up online.