Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Phillip Barnett
Yes, round here in Cambridge too! At least my local box now has a last collection at 9am - which rather caught me out when I was trying to catch the former 17:30 last post > On 26 Mar 2015, at 11:46, John Aldridge wrote: > >> On 26/03/2015 10:20, Stuart Reynolds wrote: >> Collection time

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 26 March 2015 at 13:15, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 12:54 +, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > > > Maybe you have a higher density of postboxes but even so, it's usually > > quite possible to remember the location of the one with the later > > collection. > > The point is you are not

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 26 March 2015 at 12:48, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > > On the flip side how many people in the general population know how to use > a grid ref or lat/long? I’d hazard a guess, it’s less than those who know > what a postcode is (ignoring the technical details of postcodes). > > Shaun > > > Just a

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 12:54 +, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > > On 26 March 2015 at 09:08, Pierre Riteau > wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, at 09:22 PM, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > > > > What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is really bothered > > about collectio

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 26 March 2015 at 11:40, Ed Loach wrote: > Stuart wrote: > > > Collection times are increasingly meaningless, thanks to the dear old > Post Office > > replacing them with “there will be a collection here before 5pm” (rather > than "at > > X pm") type of notices > > 5pm. 5pm! How I long for 5pm.

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 10:20 +, Stuart Reynolds wrote: > We certainly use postcodes for routing within traveline - they are > unambiguous. Indeed, I was considering a task only yesterday to use > postcode polygons as a means of assigning postcodes to bus stops. > > > Collection times are incr

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 26 March 2015 at 09:08, Pierre Riteau wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, at 09:22 PM, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > > What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is really bothered about > collection times ? The nearest post box is useful info. > > I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. Postcode

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
> On 26 Mar 2015, at 12:26, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > > > On 25 March 2015 at 21:35, Colin Spiller > wrote: > ? > Postcodes are GREAT for routing. It's far quicker to type the postcode as > destination than a long address. If it takes me to the correct street I

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 22:17, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 25/03/2015 21:22, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. >> > > Seriously? Try googling "satnav ref". > > -- > Steve > > Those at 90 Lapstone Road, Millom could as the house is the only property with that post

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 22:13, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mar/25/2015, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > On 25 March 2015 at 18:25, Dan S wrote: > > > > > 2015-03-25 18:20 GMT+00:00 Pmailkeey . : > > > > Postcodes are very valuable for routing - people outside OSM use them > > > very heavily fo

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 21:35, Colin Spiller wrote: > ? > Postcodes are GREAT for routing. It's far quicker to type the postcode as > destination than a long address. If it takes me to the correct street I can > usually find the building by myself, if I haven't entered the house number. > Postcodes

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 21:49, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2015-03-25 22:22, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is really bothered about > collection times ? The nearest post box is useful info. > > I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. Postcodes, I guess are >

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 21:35, Colin Spiller wrote: > ? > Postcodes are GREAT for routing. It's far quicker to type the postcode as > destination than a long address. If it takes me to the correct street I can > usually find the building by myself, if I haven't entered the house number. > Postcodes

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread John Aldridge
On 26/03/2015 10:20, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Collection times are increasingly meaningless, thanks to the dear old Post Office replacing them with “there will be a collection here before 5pm” (rather than "at X pm") type of notices (at least around here, anyway, and I believe that it is generally

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Ed Loach
Stuart wrote: > Collection times are increasingly meaningless, thanks to the dear old Post > Office > replacing them with “there will be a collection here before 5pm” (rather than > "at > X pm") type of notices 5pm. 5pm! How I long for 5pm. Last Collection Time Monday to Friday 9.00am (Satu

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Stuart Reynolds
We certainly use postcodes for routing within traveline - they are unambiguous. Indeed, I was considering a task only yesterday to use postcode polygons as a means of assigning postcodes to bus stops. Collection times are increasingly meaningless, thanks to the dear old Post Office replacing th

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread jonathan
+1 on collection times and Postcodes for routing. Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me From: Pierre Riteau Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎26‎ ‎March‎ ‎2015 ‎09‎:‎08 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, at 09:22 PM, Pmailkeey . wrote: What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Pierre Riteau
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, at 09:22 PM, Pmailkeey . wrote: > > What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is really bothered about > collection times ? The nearest post box is useful info. > > I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. Postcodes, I guess > are only of use to Royal Mail for the purp

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/03/15 22:13, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > In the UK (at least in London) a postcode is a very small zone so it's > very useful. And it's not uncommon for web sites to list a 'postcode for satnav' rather than the actual postal address one ;) > In other countries a postcode is too big to be

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Steve Doerr
On 25/03/2015 18:40, Chris Hill wrote: On 25/03/15 17:55, Steve Doerr wrote: Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? Steve The data are based on data that RM owns, but RM has chosen to release these data under the Open Government Licence (OGL), both via ONS and

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Steve Doerr
On 25/03/2015 21:22, Pmailkeey . wrote: I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. Seriously? Try googling "satnav ref". -- Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-GB m

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hi, On Mar/25/2015, Pmailkeey . wrote: > On 25 March 2015 at 18:25, Dan S wrote: > > > 2015-03-25 18:20 GMT+00:00 Pmailkeey . : > > Postcodes are very valuable for routing - people outside OSM use > > them > > very heavily for that. Postcodes are not even a minority concern. [...] > I can't i

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Colin Smale
On 2015-03-25 22:22, Pmailkeey . wrote: > What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is really bothered about collection > times ? The nearest post box is useful info. > > I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. Postcodes, I guess are > only of use to Royal Mail for the purpose of

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Colin Spiller
? Postcodes are GREAT for routing. It's far quicker to type the postcode as destination than a long address. If it takes me to the correct street I can usually find the building by myself, if I haven't entered the house number. Postcodes every time. Colin On 25/03/15 21:22, Pmailkeey . wrote

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 18:25, Dan S wrote: > 2015-03-25 18:20 GMT+00:00 Pmailkeey . : > > > > > > On 25 March 2015 at 17:55, Steve Doerr wrote: > >> > >> Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> On 25/03/2015 17:43, Mick Orridge wrote: > >>>

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Antje (OpenStreetMap)
Hi, As long as you document the evidence of OGL'ness on the wiki, it'll be fine. Amaroussi (Website link unavailable right now due to a Pingu/Tux invasion.) signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Chris Hill
On 25/03/15 17:55, Steve Doerr wrote: Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? Steve The data are based on data that RM owns, but RM has chosen to release these data under the Open Government Licence (OGL), both via ONS and OS Codepoint Open. OGL is compatible wi

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Dan S
2015-03-25 18:20 GMT+00:00 Pmailkeey . : > > > On 25 March 2015 at 17:55, Steve Doerr wrote: >> >> Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? >> >> Steve >> >> On 25/03/2015 17:43, Mick Orridge wrote: >>> >>> On the subject of postcodes, I have generated approximate re

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Pmailkeey .
On 25 March 2015 at 17:55, Steve Doerr wrote: > Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? > > Steve > > On 25/03/2015 17:43, Mick Orridge wrote: > >> On the subject of postcodes, I have generated approximate regions from >> the ONS postcode data for postcode areas, d

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Mick Orridge
Here's the ONS licence page:- http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/geography/beginner-s-guide/licences/index.html As I understand it these data are release under the Open Government Licence which means we may re-use this information (not including logos or Northern Ireland data) free of char

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Paul Sladen
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 25/03/2015 17:43, Mick Orridge wrote: > > the ONS postcode data for postcode areas, districts and sectors which ^^^ > Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? Royal Mail != Office for National Statistics.

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Steve Doerr
Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? Steve On 25/03/2015 17:43, Mick Orridge wrote: On the subject of postcodes, I have generated approximate regions from the ONS postcode data for postcode areas, districts and sectors which can be downloaded as shp files her

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Mick Orridge
On the subject of postcodes, I have generated approximate regions from the ONS postcode data for postcode areas, districts and sectors which can be downloaded as shp files here:- http://www.gismosoftware.co.uk/postcode-data.php They are free to download and use under the ODbL license. The gen

[Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-25 Thread Chris Hill
I've just updated the postcode overlays for GB to the latest available (Feb 2015) data from both ONS and Codepoint Open. You can find more information for the ONS overlay here: http://onspd.raggedred.net/ and the Codepoint Open overlay here: http://codepoint.raggedred.net/ AFAIK the two data