Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-13 Thread MarkS
It is difficult to chase tainted junctions though. -- Andrew I've knocked something together as a trial for tainted junctions. My scripts extract the nodes at the start and end of a given set of ways and pass them through quick history to check the licence state. So far I've done

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-11 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 8 March 2012 15:19, MarkS o...@redcake.co.uk wrote: I've done an update and put some info on a wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MarkS/Remapping The page has the latest counts (down to 1889 currently expected to be deleted).  It also has a link to a CSV file with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-11 Thread Ed Loach
Robert asked: Does your CSV list take into account ways tagged with ODbL=clean? Checking taginfo and then double checking by asking on #irc, but as tags are case sensitive a quick reminder that it is odbl=clean http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=odbl Ed

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-11 Thread MarkS
Does your CSV list take into account ways tagged with ODbL=clean? If not (and assuming the rebuild process will honour such tagging) would it be possible for such objects to be excluded from your list? Thanks, Robert. Good spot. No my list didn't allow for odbl=clean. However, the

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-10 Thread Andrew
MarkS OSM@... writes: Do you know if/when that file will be updated as ways are re-mapped? I've done an update and put some info on a wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MarkS/Remapping I'll update these on an ad-hoc basis until the licence change has occurred.

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
MarkS wrote: The page has the latest counts (down to 1889 currently expected to be deleted). And now 1733 by Simon's latest tally. :) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Licence-change-one-month-to-go-tp5531132p5549953.html Sent from the Great

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-08 Thread MarkS
Do you know if/when that file will be updated as ways are re-mapped? I've done an update and put some info on a wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MarkS/Remapping The page has the latest counts (down to 1889 currently expected to be deleted). It also has a link to a CSV

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 4 March 2012 12:42, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Simon has very kindly provided this: http://odbl.poole.ch/uk_major_roads.txt Excellent -- thanks to both of you for getting this done. Do you know if/when that file will be updated as ways are re-mapped? MarkS

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: Excellent -- thanks to both of you for getting this done. The credit belongs to Simon, not me! I believe that he is willing to regenerate the list on occasion, but will wait to be contradicted if that's not the case. I think the trunk roads are doable too if

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread Tom Chance
On 6 March 2012 15:48, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: (But I've not looked at really densely-mapped areas such as London, and the situation may be more serious there.) There are lots of patches of detail in London that are still at risk:

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread ael
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:48:50AM -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'd like to think we'll be most of the way there with the primary and secondary roads, too. There are a few fairly important road/lanes in Cornwall that will be lost the last time I looked. I expect to be in the area soon, so

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Tom Chance wrote: On 6 March 2012 15:48, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: (But I've not looked at really densely-mapped areas such as London, and the situation may be more serious there.) There are lots of patches of detail in London that are still at

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread Donald Noble
Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: I think the trunk roads are doable too if enough people help out. I am going to work my way through the A7* A8* and A9* roads in Scotland, as I know most of them, and can fill in the blanks with OSSV, bing or uploaded GPS traces. I'm assuming that if the end nodes

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread MarkS
There are lots of patches of detail in London that are still at risk: http://cleanmap.poole.ch/?zoom=13lat=51.51807lon=-0.1225layers=00B%0D%0A http://cleanmap.poole.ch/?zoom=13lat=51.51807lon=-0.1225layers=00B%0D%0A My worry in Central London is the large number of traffic lights that

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-06 Thread MarkS
On 06/03/2012 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: Excellent -- thanks to both of you for getting this done. Do you know if/when that file will be updated as ways are re-mapped? I was playing around tonight with a combination of the Quick History Service and Overpass to requery the

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
MarkS wrote: As Robert says getting a list of problem highway nodes/ways would be a good step. Simon has very kindly provided this: http://odbl.poole.ch/uk_major_roads.txt cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
The other day I wrote: But there are a few significant problem areas: - Hertfordshire (Luton, Hemel etc.) I'm delighted to report that the two major undecided mappers in Hertfordshire have both just agreed. Thank you both. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-04 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Further to this, one helpful thing is if everyone makes sure they've uploaded all their traces to OSM. I know I'm guilty of working from the trace files locally when mapping, then forgetting to upload them so other mappers can make use of the data. That way we're not entirely reliant on OS data

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 2 March 2012 14:35, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: We change to the new licence in just under a month's time, so it's a good time to look at the current state of the UK. We're almost certainly not going to be able to able to get the UK completely clean by the switch-over, and

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-03 Thread MarkS
I agree that we want to try and have a complete main road network network. Whilst longish stretches of road are easy to spot there are a lot of other small sections (eg. bridges) which are harder to see on cleanmap (unless the rest of the area is clean). We also have the issue of nodes going

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: I wonder if another prioritisation approach might be useful too -- prioritising certain high-value types of objects, where-ever they might be. Yes, I think that's an excellent idea. Obviously, everyone has their own definition of high value (I'm quite anxious to

[Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
We change to the new licence in just under a month's time, so it's a good time to look at the current state of the UK. What's likely not to be carried through to the new database? The good news is that the UK is in a very healthy state overall. Just under 99% of nodes will survive (98.68%

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Matt Williams
On 2 March 2012 14:35, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: We change to the new licence in just under a month's time, so it's a good time to look at the current state of the UK. What's likely not to be carried through to the new database? The good news is that the UK is in a very

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/03/12 14:35, Richard Fairhurst wrote: If you have some free time over the next few weeks, do go and remap. P2 and JOSM both have licence status displays. Bing and OS StreetView are immensely useful resources (my P2 prefs have them assigned to function keys F1 and F2 for easy reference).

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Andrew
Matt Williams lists@... writes: I'm mainly focusing on the road network first since I feel that's something that we don't want to suddenly be broken on the 1st of April and is most easily verifiable from Bing/OS. Overall I think that Coventry will come out of this in better shape as I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 14:35 +, Richard Fairhurst wrote: We change to the new licence in just under a month's time, so it's a good time to look at the current state of the UK. What's likely not to be carried through to the new database? The good news is that the UK is in a very healthy