Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

[May be duplicate as email client crashed on submission.] On 20/01/17 14:02, Dave F wrote: They *reside* in a private back garden. They don't in a communal or public park & certainly not in nurseries/schools etc. As I said previously, landuse=residential is being misused to represent a

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

They *reside* in a private back garden. They don't in a communal or public park & certainly not in nurseries/schools etc. As I said previously, landuse=residential is being misused to represent a suburban area or even whole towns. DaveF On 20/01/2017 13:51, Dan S wrote: Well OK, since

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On 18/01/2017 14:36, Dan S wrote: 2017-01-18 13:51 GMT+00:00 Dave F : Hi Do people reside & sleep in the park or nursery? If 'no' then is it really residential? ...! ...? DaveF --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

2017-01-18 13:51 GMT+00:00 Dave F : > Hi > > Do people reside & sleep in the park or nursery? > If 'no' then is it really residential? ...! > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dresidential > > As the database becomes more detailed/accurate the

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

I agree & it's previously been pointed out that contributors are using OS opendata streetview, but I don't think it's correct usage of the tag. isolated farms (I presume you mean farmyards) should be mapped as polygons & tag with landuse=farmyard. Whole farms, including fields, should be

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

Hi Do people reside & sleep in the park or nursery? If 'no' then is it really residential? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dresidential As the database becomes more detailed/accurate the "granularity" gets smaller. Entities like 'residential' will have less blanket coverage,

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

ap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons Please be aware this is the talk-GB forum. Use of place=farm in Britain is almost certainly misguided. If anyone knows of an appropriate location please post here. It's not use of the tag itself that's the problem, it's contributor's misinterpre

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Paul Sladen wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Dave F wrote: > > On 17/01/2017 14:32, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77260547 > > > > I think this is inaccurate mapping. The buildings are called 'Queen's > > Park Court' The residential area should

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Dave F wrote: > > On 17/01/2017 14:32, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > > It is what I do too: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77260547 > > I think this is inaccurate mapping. The buildings are called 'Queen's Park > Court' The residential area should not include the

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

DaveF wrote: > Please be aware this is the talk-GB forum. > > Use of place=farm in Britain is almost certainly misguided. If anyone > knows of an appropriate location please post here. > > It's not use of the tag itself that's the problem, it's contributor's > misinterpretation of it. When was

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

Please be aware this is the talk-GB forum. Use of place=farm in Britain is almost certainly misguided. If anyone knows of an appropriate location please post here. It's not use of the tag itself that's the problem, it's contributor's misinterpretation of it. DaveF On 17/01/2017 21:52,

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On 17/01/2017 21:52, Warin wrote: In Australia .. place=farm is appropriate. The next farm may be 250 miles away, as such it usually has facilities for seasonal workers (say 20 people), machinery maintenance, air strip, ... etc. They are substantial places that are important in a mapping and

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On 18-Jan-17 07:23 AM, Dan S wrote: 2017-01-17 19:50 GMT+00:00 Dave F >: "The Bow Quarter" appears to be an attempt to posh up the area. Gated communities scare me as the most dangerous people are usually inside the

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On 18-Jan-17 07:27 AM, Dave F wrote: On 17/01/2017 19:38, Warin wrote: Generally I add a node place=farm as I am not certain where the boundary lies This is a misuse of this tag. place=farm is for the rare (non existent?) cases where a residential community, such as a hamlet, has

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On 17/01/2017 19:38, Warin wrote: Generally I add a node place=farm as I am not certain where the boundary lies This is a misuse of this tag. place=farm is for the rare (non existent?) cases where a residential community, such as a hamlet, has acquired the name of an adjacent farm. "a

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2017-01-17 19:50 GMT+00:00 Dave F : > > "The Bow Quarter" appears to be an attempt to posh up the area. Gated > communities scare me as the most dangerous people are usually inside the > fence. > > DaveF > Oh indeed. You should see it: some rather interesting

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Dave F wrote: > On 17/01/2017 14:32, Derick Rethans wrote: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77260547 > I think this is inaccurate mapping. The buildings are called 'Queen's > Park Court' The residential area should not include the grassed area or > the nursery.

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On 17/01/2017 14:32, Derick Rethans wrote: It is what I do too: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77260547 I think this is inaccurate mapping. The buildings are called 'Queen's Park Court' The residential area should not include the grassed area or the nursery. DaveF --- This email has

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

For residential areas I agree. In this case place=* would be better. An area's name refers to all entities in the vicinity (schools, parks etc), not just where people live. Unfortunately landuse=residential is still misused to be all encompassing of an area or even whole towns. "The Bow

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Dan S wrote: > Colin, do you have your own preferred style for how to tag a named > housing estate in a city for example? I use landuse=residential for > this (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/51736709 though that one > wasn't by me) and I feel it a very appropriate

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

I do use these from time to time. My usual use cases are: - Small named estates of social housing. These are common throughout Greater London and the name is usually shown on boards around the perimeter of each estate. Even for ones without such boards there is often good evidence

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

Colin, do you have your own preferred style for how to tag a named housing estate in a city for example? I use landuse=residential for this (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/51736709 though that one wasn't by me) and I feel it a very appropriate style. It can easily be carved out of a larger

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

Hi Andrew, Well, my 2p: I like to name landuse=residential when it corresponds to a delineated housing estate or whatever. I agree that as in this case they're almost always "somewhat arbitrary" (only rarely do we have access to some official polygon corresponding to a housing estate or retail

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

Can't think of any justification for name on landuse. The boundary of a village may be co-linear with the built-up area, so the "place" boundary may be co-linear with the "landuse=residential", but they are not the same object and should not be conflated into a single OSM object from some

[Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

A recent changeset in southwest London [https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43807789] added names to landuse=residential and landuse=commercial polygons. The mapper has not responded to the changeset comment that I left some weeks ago. The names themselves read more like descriptions to me