Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-15 Thread Edward Betts
Andrew Hain wrote: > I still get internal errors in a few places, for instance Richmond upon > Thames. It was failing because node 880543279 had been deleted by this recent changeset. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37791280 I changed the code to skip

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-15 Thread Andrew Hain
I still get internal errors in a few places, for instance Richmond upon Thames. -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 March 2016 at 23:46, Edward Betts wrote: Thank you again for your continued work on this. However... > I think the next step is show the list of items to be tagged in human readable > form with a form where mappers can sign their name or username and assert that > they

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-14 Thread Edward Betts
;edw...@4angle.com> > Sent: 11 March 2016 15:46 > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland > > I've added a code to preview the XML of the changeset that adds wikidata tags > to objects in a given area. You can find p

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-14 Thread Andrew Hain
Iā€™m getting internal server errors when I try to look at the previews. -- Andrew From: Edward Betts <edw...@4angle.com> Sent: 11 March 2016 15:46 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland I've

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Andrew Hain
edw...@4angle.com> Sent: 11 March 2016 10:03 To: impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland I've uploaded my first changeset - Places of worship in Birmingham. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Edward Betts
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Colin Smale wrote: > > As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just > > a reference > > Unfortunately it's not quite that simple. > > The matching is done by co-ordinates. The co-ordinates in Wikidata could be > held to be

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Edward Betts
I've uploaded my first changeset - Places of worship in Birmingham. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37766888 This is a modification to 10 ways and one relation. The relation is a multipolygon representing Birmingham Oratory. The uploader has put the wikidata tag on the relation, which

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Colin Smale wrote: > As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just > a reference Unfortunately it's not quite that simple. The matching is done by co-ordinates. The co-ordinates in Wikidata could be held to be information copyrighted by Google. Consequently you could argue

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Colin Smale
Richard, As we are not copying the content from Wikipedia/Wikidata, but just a reference, it sounds analogous to the many discussions there have been about hyperlinks to copyright-infringing content, i.e. the question of whether the link itself constitutes a copyright infringement. The link

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/03/2016 12:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: Tickets have also been raised (to save anyone else looking it up) https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2680 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11541 I don't see anything for P2. I haven't looked for other editors. Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, Without wanting to be a rotten party-pooper, could I just raise the licence issues with this? Wikidata co-ordinate information is chiefly sourced from Wikipedia, which claims to be CC-BY-SA licensed. Wikipedia co-ordinate information is chiefly sourced from Google Maps[1]. Google

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2016 at 20:53, Philip Barnes wrote: > What plans are there for maintenance of this data in future, it is a move > away from human readable tags so errors will go unnoticed. Various tickets have been opened, requesting that the authors of the major editing

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Edward Betts
Good question. OSM editors and viewers could be changed to integrate more closely with Wikidata. An OSM editor could suggest to the mapper a matching Wikidata item to tag. We could have the editor automatically look up the label from the Wikidata item in the preferred language of the person

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Edward Betts
I've added admin_level=8 to the output. This is useful for selling matches grouped by districts, London boroughs and metropolitan boroughs. For example: http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/gb-ie/region/Greater_London -- Edward. ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-11 Thread Gregory
I particularly want to echo Brian's advice to request permission from a mapper in each county. Use the OSM wiki to find local mappers/groups for that consultation. A summary table would be helpful if it includes: county name, when the mechanical edit was done, the status (done, refused, not yet

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Colin Smale
Thanks Edward, that has removed the uncertainty and looks much better know. //colin On 2016-03-11 08:48, Edward Betts wrote: > I've updated the category names in the database to remove " by country" from > the end. > > Edward Betts wrote: The category names are from >

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Betts
I've updated the category names in the database to remove " by country" from the end. Edward Betts wrote: > The category names are from Wikipedia. I start with the "Airports by country" > category and just grab the subcategories for United Kingdom and Ireland. In a > previous

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Betts
The category names are from Wikipedia. I start with the "Airports by country" category and just grab the subcategories for United Kingdom and Ireland. In a previous version I had code to strip the ' by country' from the end. I'll try and restore it to reduce the confusion. -- Edward. Colin Smale

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Edward, I took a look at the result pages and I noticed a small, but pervasive typo. All the listings of a category per county are actually titled per countRy on all the pages. For example on the Greater London page http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/gb-ie/region/Greater_London you see under

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Betts
Now fixed: http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/gb-ie/region/Isle_of_Man Thanks for the bug report. -- Edward. Colin Spiller wrote: > Isle of Man conspicuous by its absence > Colin > > Edward Betts wrote: > > >I've extended my search for matches

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Mar 10 21:48:45 2016 GMT, Colin Spiller wrote: > Isle of Man conspicuous by its absence The Isle of Man is neither part of the UK or Ireland Phil (trigpoint) > > Edward Betts wrote: > > >I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now >

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Betts
The matching code is looking for castles to be tagged with one of: historic=castle, building=castle, or tourism=attraction '@ Bristol' is tagged as tourism=attraction. hen my code is matching names it tries removing ' castle' from the end of castle names. It also removes any symbols, so we

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Colin Spiller
Isle of Man conspicuous by its absence Colin Edward Betts wrote: >I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now >covers all of the UK and Ireland. > >I used map data from http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/british-isles.html > >The results are

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Richard Symonds
> > "To fix in wikidata/wikipedia is there one place to edit it so that it > propagates to wikidata and all the different language wikipedias? " The best way is to update wikidata, and in good time it will propagate across to the various Wikipedias once they're linked with Wikidata (not all are

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
What plans are there for maintenance of this data in future, it is a move away from human readable tags so errors will go unnoticed. Mappers are very unlikely to add new wikidata tags in the way we add Wikipedia. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Mar 10 20:00:17 2016 GMT, Edward Betts wrote: > Dave F

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread SK53
I'm not sure about that. Very recently I noticed the Architectural Association on Bedford Square was missing (interest is that it has a bookshop). I was able to locate it using OOC OSGB maps (particularly the late Victorian town plan & the post-war 1:1250 maps of London), which also had house

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Ian Caldwell
This analysis shows some errors in both wikidata/wikipedia and OSM, we should try and fix some of them. On error in particular is difference in location, in Worcestershire they are 36 cases were the distance is 1 km or more. It quite a lot of cases this is an error in wikidata/wikipedia. To fix

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Edward I would import only after an invitation by a mapper or mappers in the relevant county, and only after they've checked where your data has more than one match and indicated which of the multiple matches is the appropriate one A wiki table showing the progress of each county would be

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Neil Matthews
Had a look at Bristol -- seems fine... ...except: Q4968836 ā€” Bristol Castle ā€” 2 matches found @ Bristol Sometimes known as "At Bristol" -- a science-themed museum/attraction -- an odd match to a ruined castle? Cheers, Neil On 10/03/2016 17:57, Edward Betts wrote: I've extended my

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Betts
Dave F wrote: > I haven't been paying full attention to this. Are we not meant to add a > wikipedia tag any more? > > Could you give a brief update on the proposal please. Here are the relevant pages on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Dave F
I haven't been paying full attention to this. Are we not meant to add a wikipedia tag any more? Could you give a brief update on the proposal please. Cheers Dave F. On 10/03/2016 17:57, Edward Betts wrote: I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now covers all

[Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

2016-03-10 Thread Edward Betts
I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now covers all of the UK and Ireland. I used map data from http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/british-isles.html The results are grouped by region or county as well as by category. http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/gb-ie/