Hi all, I'm looking to import a database of trigpoint pillars of the UK into OSM, since they're highly useful for countryside navigation. I have sent a message to the trigonomy yahoo group who are the experts on trigpoints. The only issue is possible copyright on their sources. Below is the reply I recieved from their list, I just need some further clarification from OSM whether it would be possible to continue.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Graeme Paterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas Wood wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking to import trigpoints into the OpenStreetMap.org project > from the trigonomy database. > However, to do this, the licensing and copyright status of the data > must be determined. OSM can only accept data with a license that > allows free redistribution and use. > > Since the trigonomy database is compiled from a large number of > sources, this is a complex issue, can anyone comment on the copyright > status of the data? ______________- Hi Thomas, Interesting question. The Main Trigonomy Database was originally compiled by Jonathan (Jack) Russell, started in the later months of 2002 and completed early in 2003. I had taken over the updating of the Trigonomy by July 2003, and continue maintain it to this day. The next 'edition' is already underway, in that I have done a "Save As" and continued filling the pillar condition cells, mainly from Rob's latest adventures in the far north. As far as copyright of the Trigonomy Database is concerned, I had never even thought of it as being a copyright item in any way. I upload an updated Database to Yahoo! group Trigonomy at least once a year, and from there, all group members are free to download it onto their own PCs if desired. Personally, I am perfectly happy for you to import anything contained in the Trigonomy database into the http://www.openstreetmap.org/ project. However, as the historic information contained in the spreadsheet was originally property of the Ordnance Survey, perhaps you should clear things with them to satisfy OSM conditions. As the OS have now put their trig archive data on the web, I cannot see there being any problems with what you plan to achieve. Others on the Trigonomy Group may wish to comment on your enquiry - hopefully supportively. I am thinking particularly those who have contributed up to date information on trig pillars. Most of the major contributors are listed alphabetically by their first names on the back worksheet of the database, here they are : AC / TAC The Angry Corrie. ACG Aileen Gray [Coinea - TUK] ALG Alan Grove AH / ARH Alistair Hare AL Alex Latham [Lathma - TUK] AMc Alasdair MacNeill [Allymac - TUK] anon Other contributor(s) whose names are withheld. AW A Wainright [quoted in other sources] BBH Barry Hunter [Owner & Creator - Trigtools] BD Brian Deegan [Deego - TUK] BeH Bernie Hughes [agentmancuso - TUK] BMJ Barbara Jones [TAC contributor] BTW Brian Westlake (Brisey, TUK) CB Chris Bomington CBR / BR Brian Russell [Trigonomy / RHB] CPa Colin Park (Bridgeman - TUK) DA David Ackrill [Morseman - TUK] DA D Andrews DB / DBu David Butterfield DCB David Bratt DW / DWo Dave Woffenden [Manonabike - TUK] GP / GRP Graeme Paterson [Clochandighter, TUK] IB Iain Bains IC Iain Cameron IGR Ian Richardson [Elsworth,TUK] IH Ian Harris [Teasel - (owner) TrigpointingUK] IJ Ian Jones [Stonestreaker - TUK] IM / IRM Iain Macaulay [Iainmac - TUK] IP Ian Peattie JCT John Talbot [Jochta TUK] JD Jon Davis JR /JFER Jonathan (Jack) Russell [Trigonomy owner]. JWR Jon Rouse [JWRouse - TUK] LAW Luke Winward [Lackofluke - TUK] MJF Michael Fisher MP M Phillips MS Mike Sutherland [Spidym - TUK] PDR Pete Roberts [Rhayader_wanderer - TUK] PP Philip Powell [Fellwanderer - TUK] PY Paul Young [Pyoung1s - TrigpointingUK] RB Roy Beacham RH / RHo Richard & Helen Horton. (Trigpointbears - TUK] RN Richard Neale (Asteroth - TrigpointingUK) RS /RAHS Rod Sladen [RoPeHe - TUK] RW / RHW Rob Woodall [Sagina nivalis, TUK] 5000+ trig visits!!! RJW Richard Webb [Fasgadh - TrigpointingUK] SDL Sue Littlewood [rhb/trigonomy contributor]. SW Steve Weatherill [TAC contributor]. TA Ted Allwood [Ted - TUK] TL / TJL Trevor Littlewood TR Ted Richards [Father Ted - TrigpointingUK] Plus many others, apologies to those missed from the list above. Many of these folk have visited several hundred trig pillars, and some are in four figures. I have had a look at http://www.openstreetmap.org/ and it is a very interesting project. Very impressive, even names local pubs in my area. It would be great to see trig pillars indicated. How do you plan to show then? Symbol and height as usual, or symbol & FB number? I may get involved myself one day, but unfortunately cannot spare any time at the moment as I already have my finger in several other ongoing pies. Depending on what particular trig details you are after, you might find spreadsheet pillar07.xls has everything you require. Zipped xls is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trigonomy/files/Data/. Note that the full eastings & northings are more reliable than the 6 fig Gridrefs on that spreadsheet. Also, I am very happy for you to use any other data or material submitted to Trigonomy by "clochandighter" and "grp5015"; there are two of me :-) If there is a place for acknowledgement then great, but definitely not essential if not, and please let me know of any mistakes which show up when mapping from my data, this will allow me to make corrections for subsequent uploads. Best wishes, Graeme Paterson (still not locked up yet) Graeme Paterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.msn.com/OSBM --- End forwarded message --- -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb
