Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
I gave the requested talk yesterday. During preparatory discussions, it turned out that, while hosted by IBM, the audience was a W3C working group, Data on the web best practice. As such, the interest was no so much trees or gas pipes, but the use of URIs (particularly linked data URIs) in OSM.

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-07 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone I've had a definite from Andy Mabbett to do this and a possibly from Tom Chance. At this stage I think it's best to confirm on Andy Mabbett. If that's OK can Andy pick up on the use cases that have been mentioned here to get more info from the contributors mentioned? We have a 30 min

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-07 Thread gianfranco gliozzo
Hello, The mapping of trees is a quite hot topic in OSM and it overlaps with several other initiatives that involve also non authoritative data as in citizenscience. I also presented a talk at SOTM in Birmingham about that. The linking of OSM data to permanent URIs can be seen also from another

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-07 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Brian, Ok, I didn't realise Andy had offered off-list. Here's one bit of work I did mapping trees: http://tom.acrewoods.net/2011/04/19/maps-open-data-and-activism-on-the-heygate-estate/ It's also worth reading this report, particularly the section from paragraph 4.11, which gives some idea

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-07 Thread SK53
Should add there are known cases where specific trees have been EXCLUDED from mapping. The one which comes to mind is the national database of native Black Poplarshttp://sppaccounts.bsbi.org.uk/content/populus-nigra-1(*Populus nigra betulifolia*) maintained by the BSBI recorder for the taxon,

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-07 Thread Nick Whitelegg
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation Should add there are known cases where specific trees have been EXCLUDED from mapping. The one which comes to mind is the national database of native Black Poplars (Populus nigra betulifolia) maintained by the BSBI recorder

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-05 Thread Christopher Baines
On 04/03/14 14:00, Dan S wrote: It appears someone at Southampton University has been attaching URIs to buildings/rooms etc, and separately (?) some bus-stops have data.gov.uk URIs - if you can find those people and whether they've written anything about their use-case that would be a nice

[Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone We have an invitation from IBM to present at this meeting- suggested topic is below. Anyone up for this - either with the topic suggested or with a suitable alternative? Regards Brian A few weeks ago, we had a use case webinar with the CIO of the City of Palo Alto who told us about

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Chance
I could possibly do this, I've done various projects to do with mapping trees and know a fair amount about tree and climate change policy. But I'm not an expert on the underlying OSM data model and API. If anyone wanted to chip in thoughts on stable URIs I'm all ears. Tom On 4 March 2014 08:33,

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread Dan S
Interesting application. Since none of the objects in OSM are guaranteed permanent, I expect the way to do it would be for trees in OSM to have ref=* which crossreferences some external database (rather than trying to build a permanent URI scheme pointing at OSM features). Or maybe the key uri=* -

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread SK53
I dont know that we've mapped any gas lines in the UK although IIRC Helsinki is festooned with underground infrastructure on OSM. I resisted mapping the local pipework when the gas main was replaced, although all the coloured markings are still visible on the street. One thought is this area is

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Chance
Thanks for the additional info, Jerry. I know that councils and utility companies don't know where a lot of old pipes and cables are, but they must have started to retain details maps and data of these in the recent past? It was Southwark, not Lambeth, where I imported the trees, by the way.

Re: [Talk-GB] W3C Invitation

2014-03-04 Thread SK53
Ha, I'd knew Id get it wrong about which London Borough. We dont always delete old data in OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2596723826 This is relevant because the Beech was felled because the root system had been attacked by Meripilus giganteus (see