Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Andrew Hain
21:25:07 To: Rob Nickerson Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over. Hi Rob, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 03:58:37PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: >I don't think it has been mentioned, but having the link to FHRS is one >way of keeping on to

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Gregrs
Hi Rob, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 03:58:37PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: I don't think it has been mentioned, but having the link to FHRS is one way of keeping on top of changes in places where we have fewer active mappers. That is, by monitoring for changes in FHRS we can identify closures,

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Gregrs
Hi all, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 01:12:07PM +, Mark Goodge wrote: If there has been a change of ownership, then yes, the old FHRS rating doesn't carry over to the new one. So it would need to be deleted from OSM as well. Whilst it's great to include the fhrs:id for an establishment and

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Andrew Black
Thanks everyone The pub I was looking at has a FHRS reference under its new name as "awaiting inspection". This is useful confirmation that its old inspection is not valid. On 21 January 2018 at 15:58, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi, > > I don't think it has been

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi, I don't think it has been mentioned, but having the link to FHRS is one way of keeping on top of changes in places where we have fewer active mappers. That is, by monitoring for changes in FHRS we can identify closures, takeovers, new cafes etc (assuming a detectable change in the source

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Mark Goodge
On 20/01/2018 22:39, Andrew Black wrote: If a pub has been taken over by a chain (and changed name), should one delete FHRS info. My gut feeling is yes but. ... If there has been a change of ownership, then yes, the old FHRS rating doesn't carry over to the new one. So it would need to be

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Dan S
2018-01-21 12:14 GMT+00:00 Dave F : > > On 21/01/2018 12:09, Philip Barnes wrote: > > rarely accepted by the locals,... > > > loc_name IMHO keeping one old_name is good practice, in particular to allow a little lag time for people who might search OSM data for "the

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Dave F
On 21/01/2018 12:09, Philip Barnes wrote: rarely accepted by the locals,... loc_name DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2018-01-21 at 00:39 +, Dave F wrote: > Bearing in mind OSM isn't a historical database, how far back > should > we go with old:? These things are worth keeping, trendy names dreamed up by marketing types are rarely accepted by the locals, they will go on referring to a pub by

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Gregrs
Hi all, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:36:34AM +, Dave F wrote: I've been prefixing them with disused: as the fhrs:id will be probably be updated after a new review. I found keeping the old one was useful as a checking reference. Prefixing with disused, old or not could be useful. (I

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-20 Thread Dave F
Bearing in mind OSM isn't a historical database, how far back should we go with old:? DaveF On 20/01/2018 23:18, Warin wrote: On 21-Jan-18 09:46 AM, Colin Spiller wrote: I have similar near here. Keep the address at least! Remove the fhrs:I'd seems sensible. old:name would seam sensible

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-20 Thread Dave F
Has it been removed from your local authority's list? I've been prefixing them with disused: as the fhrs:id will be probably be updated after a new review. I found keeping the old one was useful as a checking reference. I've also compiled a list of disused: objects to send to my LA's hygiene

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-20 Thread Warin
On 21-Jan-18 09:46 AM, Colin Spiller wrote: I have similar near here. Keep the address at least! Remove the fhrs:I'd seems sensible. old:name would seam sensible too. Colin Sent from TypeApp On 20 Jan 2018, at 22:42, Andrew Black

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-20 Thread Colin Spiller
I have similar near here. Keep the address at least! Remove the fhrs:I'd seems sensible. Colin ⁣Sent from TypeApp ​ On 20 Jan 2018, 22:42, at 22:42, Andrew Black wrote: >If a pub has been taken over by a chain (and changed name), should one >delete FHRS info. >My