Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 14:39, ipswichmap...@tutanota.com wrote: > It's not just administrative boundaries. If you mark points with > "place=suburb", "place=town" etc. that will also be used. > > In this case it is clearly difficult to tell which tags to use, so I would > just not use them and let

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

Marking city, town etc is not necessary in UK because Geocoders like nominatim can figure those out using afministrative boundaries. What is important is the housenumber and street: "addr:housenumber=99 addr:street= Postal Street" And postcode: "addr:postcode=XY9 7GY" Note, all postcodes are

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

It's not just administrative boundaries. If you mark points with "place=suburb", "place=town" etc. that will also be used. In this case it is clearly difficult to tell which tags to use, so I would just not use them and let nominatim figure out. Unless someone else a clearer solution, that is.

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

Addresses in OSM are not the same as Royal Mail's addresses. RM addresses are all about their processes for delivering post to delivery points. The postal town (Largertown in your example) is a convenience for RM that we have all been persuaded is useful, but RM have ceased to use postal towns

[Talk-GB] UK street addressing

Hi, I am trying to make sure I tag addresses correctly. I am currently trying to understand how to map in my area. The postal addresses are like: 99 Postal Street Smalltown Largertown West Yorks XY9 7GY Smalltown is geographically separate to Largertown, which however is the Postal Town.

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 14:13, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: > Marking city, town etc is not necessary in UK because Geocoders like > nominatim can figure those out using afministrative boundaries. Postal addresses have no relation to administrative boundaries. They are simply "what you need to put

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 16:30, ndrw wrote: > On 20/12/2020 12:45, Dave Abbott wrote: > >> There is a page at >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping which >> mentions "suggested tags" but there is no evidence that this is in use. If >> correct I would be tagging as - >>

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 14:57, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-12-20 15:41, Chris Hill wrote: Addresses in OSM are not the same as Royal Mail's addresses. RM addresses are all about their processes for delivering post to delivery points. The postal town (Largertown in your example) is a convenience for

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 18:21, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: > Tag the houses with addr:place maybe? IMHO a house is not a place > Or, better method is to use the alternative terrace taggong scheme where each > house is tagged as building:part=house within a larger building=terrace. > (Terracer

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 15:41, Chris Hill wrote: > Addresses in OSM are not the same as Royal Mail's addresses. RM addresses are > all about their processes for delivering post to delivery points. The postal > town (Largertown in your example) is a convenience for RM that we have all > been persuaded is

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 12:45, Dave Abbott wrote: There is a page at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping which mentions "suggested tags" but there is no evidence that this is in use. If correct I would be tagging as - addr:housenumber=99 addr:street=Postal Street

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

I'm also unclear how to tag numbered houses in named terraces. addr:housename doesn't seem appropriate if they are shared along an entire row and addr:street already has a value. I've also run into this for blocks of flats. "Block B" doesn't seem like a housename either? The addr:block tags

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 15:30, ndrw wrote: On 20/12/2020 12:45, Dave Abbott wrote: There is a page at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping which mentions "suggested tags" but there is no evidence that this is in use. If correct I would be tagging as - addr:housenumber=99

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 17:09, Chris Hill wrote: > On 20/12/2020 15:30, ndrw wrote: On 20/12/2020 12:45, Dave Abbott wrote: > There is a page at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping which > mentions "suggested tags" but there is no evidence that this is in use. If >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 17:16, Chris Hill wrote: > On 20/12/2020 14:57, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2020-12-20 15:41, Chris Hill wrote: > Addresses in OSM are not the same as Royal Mail's addresses. RM addresses are > all about their processes for delivering post to delivery points. The postal > town

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

Tag the houses with addr:place maybe? Or, better method is to use the alternative terrace taggong scheme where each house is tagged as building:part=house within a larger building=terrace.  (Terracer plugin lets you do this if you check "keep outline way") IpswichMapper-- 20 Dec 2020,

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

Postal Town may be "mandatory", but it is not really needed. When presenting a parcel at my local post office recently, to be sent by the "signed for" service, they wanted to have the senders address on the reverse, so that it could be used as a return address, in the event of non-delivery. All

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 19:44, ipswichmap...@tutanota.com wrote: > What you do is give the outline way "buildong=terrace" and > "name=" and all the houses with "building:part=house". The > software can then tell that all those houses are part of the terrace called > So in the case like I referred to

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 18:44, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: What you do is give the outline way "buildong=terrace" and "name=" and all the houses with "building:part=house". The software can then tell that all those houses are part of the terrace called This is a good solution. I usually

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

The housenumber and street would be tagged on the "building:part=house" Is this housrnumber belonging to the terrace or is it belonging to the street? If it belongs to the terrace, I think even with this tagging software wouldnt recognise this. In that case, this is the tagging O use (its not

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 2020-12-20 20:24, ipswichmap...@tutanota.com wrote: > The housenumber and street would be tagged on the "building:part=house" > > Is this housrnumber belonging to the terrace or is it belonging to the > street? If it belongs to the terrace, I think even with this tagging software > wouldnt

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

What you do is give the outline way "buildong=terrace" and "name=" and all the houses with "building:part=house". The software can then tell that all those houses are part of the terrace called -- 20 Dec 2020, 17:30 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: > > On 2020-12-20 18:21, ipswichmapper--- via

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

That still doesn't answer the addr: tag question. I don't think we'd normally expect consumers to need to do such detailed geometry parsing for address to interpretation. I think we need a firmer scheme for divisions of privately managed stuff e.g. business parks apartment 'complexes' and the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 16:09, Chris Hill wrote Using the two separate towns is not correct. The house (or whatever) is not in Largertown,it is in Smalltown. By convention addr:* tags are for addressing, not for mapping administrative boundaries. For the latter we can use is_in tags, although explicit

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

Personally, I think this is still a sort of kludge, although no worse than the ones I discussed in my blog pos t. I'm aware of a number of terraces which are discontinuous, demonstrating that individual houses in a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

I don't think you can *deduce* the post town from the postcode, but you can look it up, using the (non-open) PAF. You will need to use the full postcode though, as sectors can be split amongst multiple post towns. Let's not drift too far from the original topic of how to represent addresses. How

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 23:21, SK53 wrote: I'm aware of a number of terraces which are discontinuous, demonstrating that individual houses in a terrace are not building:part. There is a set of maisonettes, which are both semi-detached horizontally, and split into four groups, with roads between them,