[Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I wrote this in expectation of sending to the west mids list only, but decided to copy also to the talk-gb list as well. Apologies for cross posting. With the election process underway we might think about a topical map. If we can get the ward boundary data into OSM in time then we could show

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Evans
While I understand what you're saying I think it's also important to recognize that we all have different ways to contribute. Some potential OSM contributors may not be interested in on-the-ground surveying, and some aren't interested in chair mapping. Agreed from my point of view. I only

Re: [Talk-GB] Opportunity for OSM to give a talk at University of Edinburgh

2010-04-07 Thread James Stewart
I see someone has put there name down at this event for giving a talk - I am prepared to contribute something too, if you would like soe support, James Stewart Dr James Stewart Institute for the Study of Science, Technology and Innovation University of Edinburgh http://www.issti.ed.ac.uk

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/04/10 09:45, Chris Browet wrote: For clients supporting multiple projections, wouldn't it be best to have a WMS (preferably a WMS-C) allowing to choose between the 2 projections (+ EPSG:4326, maybe)? It might be that http://os.openstreetmap.org/wms/map.php?source=sv;

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: For clients supporting multiple projections, wouldn't it be best to have a WMS (preferably a WMS-C) allowing to choose between the 2 projections (+ EPSG:4326, maybe)? It might be that http://os.openstreetmap.org/wms/map.php?source=sv;

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/04/10 09:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: You could use the recently open-sourced http://mapproxy.org/ instead of the very simple WMS that someone wrote in PHP. Mapproxy combines tiles and scales or even reprojects them to fit any WMS request. And offers proper GetCapability responses. The

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Chris Browet
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:51, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 07/04/10 09:45, Chris Browet wrote: For clients supporting multiple projections, wouldn't it be best to have a WMS (preferably a WMS-C) allowing to choose between the 2 projections (+ EPSG:4326, maybe)? It might be that

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/04/10 10:18, Chris Browet wrote: Well, if it has been deemed reasonable to make the tile available through WMS/TMS, I don't see the silliness of having them unaltered in the first place, then maybe reprojected... That presupposes that we have a set of OSGB tiles. We don't, we have a

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Chris Browet
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:20, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 07/04/10 10:18, Chris Browet wrote: Well, if it has been deemed reasonable to make the tile available through WMS/TMS, I don't see the silliness of having them unaltered in the first place, then maybe reprojected... That

Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Steve Doerr
I'd prefer to see boundaries handled by an automated (and nationwide) import process, as the OS data is likely to be at least as good as contributors' own efforts and usually much better AND they are committed to maintaining it going forward. Which seems a good opportunity to mention that those

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Thomas Wood
I began producing a second set of tiles in addition to RichardF's scripted set that uses a slightly different production method. Both rely on gdalwarp at the core, and this can be assumed to be correct (I hope!) Both sets were generated using z16 as the base resolution, and both can be

Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Ed Loach
Steve wrote: I'd prefer to see boundaries handled by an automated (and nationwide) import process, as the OS data is likely to be at least as good as contributors' own efforts and usually much better AND they are committed to maintaining it going forward. Which seems a good opportunity to

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Tim François
...snip... As a point of note while I was just doing a little test editing with these tiles, using the WMS function in JOSM I wasn't getting the necessary quality to read the street names, even with a change resolution request, so I swapped out to the slippy map viewer which was much better

Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Chance
On 7 April 2010 11:29, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Its also worth noting how the OS maintains this boundary-line data. Its not apparently, as you might have thought, tied to OS MasterMap, which you would think would provide precise positioning based upon

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Chris Browet wrote: I'm not too sure the reprojection from EPSG:27700 (OSGB36) to EPSG:900913 (Google) went perfect. If you're tracing from _any_ source without first aligning it with a trustworthy ground reference (typically an average of existing GPS tracks), You're Doing It Wrong.

Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Reed
When thinking about maintaining boundary imports, there is a further complication in that many boundaries follow other features - that are already mapped with varying degrees of precision. I can see a case for handling boundaries differently since the OS boundary data is definitive - in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Opportunity for OSM to give a talk at University of Edinburgh

2010-04-07 Thread Jo Walsh
dear all, On 07/04/2010 09:51, James Stewart wrote: I see someone has put there name down at this event for giving a talk - I am prepared to contribute something too, if you would like soe support, http://okscotland.eventbrite.com/ It would be great to have a State of the Scottish Map talk

Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net] wrote: Sent: 07 April 2010 11:41 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: Ed Loach; Steve Doerr; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries On 7 April 2010 11:29, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Fairhurst wrote: If you're tracing from _any_ source without first aligning it with a trustworthy ground reference (typically an average of existing GPS tracks), You're Doing It Wrong. It seems that the sort of offset that there is with the new OS data is different from what

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Chris Browet
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:42, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Chris Browet wrote: I'm not too sure the reprojection from EPSG:27700 (OSGB36) to EPSG:900913 (Google) went perfect. If you're tracing from _any_ source without first aligning it with a trustworthy ground reference

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2010 12:53, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: In both the edgemaster's and Richard's tiles there are periodic kinks (about 1 pixel in size) in what should be straight lines. It is more obvious in Richard's tiles because they are less noisy. Any idea what is causing that?

Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Chance
On 7 April 2010 12:08, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: What I'm meaning by verification is interrogating the boundary line with the features already mapped on the ground. In many cases we know where the back of gardens are for instance, or the position of a

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData StreetView Tiles now available

2010-04-07 Thread Oliver O'Brien
Just to throw more things into the mix, I have a third set of OS Street View tiles, only z11-z15 though as my overall method's much slower :-( which was produced using a different workflow to the first two. I'm using TimSC's warp-gbos program that was used to rectify the Scottish Popular Edition

[Talk-GB] OSM Error now detects source=OS_OpenData

2010-04-07 Thread Russ Phillips
During all the discussion about OS OpenData, it was suggested that anything derived from OS data should be surveyed on the ground at a later date, since on-the-ground surveying is the preferred method of gathering data. With that in mind, I've added OS OpenData source tags to OSM Error [1]. For

[Talk-GB] Strange OS choices

2010-04-07 Thread Seventy 7
What odd choices OS have made in releasing this data! I've not had a good look until now, so I've only just realised that they've had all these layers and decided which to release and which to remove. So they've removed paths but kept their names, removed parks but kept the water and wooded

Re: [Talk-GB] Opportunity for OSM to give a talk at University of Edinburgh (Jo Walsh)

2010-04-07 Thread Fozy 81
Hi all Thanks James and Jo for showing interest. I put my name down for the event as an 'undecided' just to reserve a slot for an OSM talk. James, would be great if you would like to talk. I'm sure myself and other Scot OSMers will be able to provide some contributions about what's been

Re: [Talk-GB] Strange OS choices

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hughes
On 07/04/10 20:18, Seventy 7 wrote: What odd choices OS have made in releasing this data! I've not had a good look until now, so I've only just realised that they've had all these layers and decided which to release and which to remove. StreetView is just an existing product - it's not