Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag

[Artur R. Czechowski]

Hi Jerry,
Thanks for your advice. I think I will left items 1 and 3 as they are till
a better way to tag such situation will be devised. For item 2 I will just
visit them and ask what kind of care and for whom they are providing here.

Best regards
Artur

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 2:32 PM, SK53  wrote:

> I cant really help with the second two (would be really useful to know
> about shops which sell out!), but estate agents which have side lines of
> business are quite common. They often may have a mortgage broking arm, an
> insurance broker or be agent for a building society, and offer surveying
> services. These are pretty much all ancillary to their main business
> because they represent products they can sell to prospective house
> owners/tenants/sellers etc. I therefore think a note is fine. Potentially
> you could use insurance[_broker]=yes or similar tags for things which are
> ancillary to the main business (as in food=yes on a drinking establishment
> or bar=yes for a hotel).
>
> Jerry
>
> On 19 May 2018 at 13:50, Artur R. Czechowski  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Sorry for previous empty mail.
>>
>> Could you, please, provide me the advice how to properly tag following
>> objects I have surveyed recently?
>>
>> 1. There is an estate agent and insurance broker. I have currently marked
>> it as estate agent. Is there a better way to tag it?
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626681212
>> 2. What social_facility I should choose for Total Home Care?
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680663
>> 3. Is there a better way to tag opening hours for Saturdays and Sundays
>> for this bakery? https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5626680664
>>
>> Best regards
>> Artur
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Scottish community councils

[SK53]

Adding such things tends to be down to local mappers. The best source for
accurate boundaries is OS Open Data Boundary Line: this needs a little
experience to process well, but IIRC JOSM handles it reasonably well.

I don't think area committees, at least in Argyll & Bute, have anything
like the same powers and responsibilities as English District Councils (the
main admin_level=8 grouping), and technically are committees of the full
council just like finance, planning etc., rather than being separate legal
entities. (Such powers as are delegated are mentioned alongside the basic
delegations to officers needed for effective administration, see A's
constitution
.
A good concrete example is that English District Councils have Returning
Officers, whereas the A Returning Officer is the Head of Customer
Services.) Nor am I sure if the area committees have any dedicated staff,
although I find it hard to see how they can achieve anything without a
minimum of secretarial support.

I would therefore suggest these are not formal administrative boundaries
(in OSM terms), and certainly the admin_level=8 should be avoided. We don't
do well in keeping non-formal admin boundaries separate from other types of
boundaries (e.g., wards which are essentially a political boundary
determined by the boundary commission, even if ward councillors may get
limited budgets and councils may align service provision with the wards).

As an interim approach I'd suggest using admin_level=9, but I think we
could do with a bit more of a re-think of some of our boundary tagging (the
bodies with powers 'devolved' upwards, such as the West Midlands Combined
Authority (currently tagged admin_level=6, but an anomaly), is another case.

Jerry

On 26 May 2018 at 13:48, S M  wrote:

> Hi, this is my first post on this forum.
>
> My question is: is there any reason why community councils in Scotland are
> not mapped? I ask because I do a lot of mapping in Angus, and I was
> planning to map the community councils for Angus council area, but I wanted
> to check first. These community councils do not have as many powers as
> English civil parishes and Welsh communities, but they do have a few
> statutory powers.
>
> If they have just not been done yet, I will get started doing Angus
> council area's community councils, and I can do Edinburgh's as well. They
> would be admin_level=10 to fit with English civil parishes and Welsh
> communities. It is worth noting that Scotland also has "area committees"
> which some council areas (such as Glasgow, Aberdeenshire, Argyll and Bute
> etc) have devolved certain powers to. If these were to be mapped they would
> be admin_level=8 presumably.
>
> Thanks.
> Saoirse
>
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[Talk-GB] Scottish community councils

[S M]

Hi, this is my first post on this forum.

My question is: is there any reason why community councils in Scotland are
not mapped? I ask because I do a lot of mapping in Angus, and I was
planning to map the community councils for Angus council area, but I wanted
to check first. These community councils do not have as many powers as
English civil parishes and Welsh communities, but they do have a few
statutory powers.

If they have just not been done yet, I will get started doing Angus council
area's community councils, and I can do Edinburgh's as well. They would be
admin_level=10 to fit with English civil parishes and Welsh communities. It
is worth noting that Scotland also has "area committees" which some council
areas (such as Glasgow, Aberdeenshire, Argyll and Bute etc) have devolved
certain powers to. If these were to be mapped they would be admin_level=8
presumably.

Thanks.
Saoirse
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