Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Rob Nickerson
Martin wrote: >But presumably the designers of OSM intended only one of these meanings >for the highway tag. But I still don't know whether it is physical >appearance or legal status. The wiki seems to be mixed up on this. For >example: > > Hi Martin, I really think you are over-thinking it.

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Wynne
or record its actual usage? Yes, in as much as "record its actual usage" is essentially the same as "describe its usage". Hi Andy, I was meaning "describe its physical appearance". For example, for: http://85a.uk/track_query_960x648.jpg I could tag it as: highway=track (physical

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Wynne
It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of more people - in OSM, the usage of highway=footway is much wider than your definition. Thanks Andy. But you also wrote recently: > just pick whatever

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 18:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? Sort-of - depending on other tags https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html can display things differently based on that, but it'd be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 19:21, Martin Wynne wrote: To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Martin Wynne
Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? I also find much of the wiki unclear. To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. If you can't do that, it is not a footway. So for

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I would urge the use of 'foot=yes' or 'foot=permissive' for paths which are _not_ rights of way but _do_ have public access (implicitly or explicitly) rather than simply 'highway=footway' or 'highway=path'. There needs to be a way to distinguish between non-rights-of-way which definitely have

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
From the footnote of that table: "The United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines state that highway=path, when used it the UK, implies "a generic narrow path that is used in conjunction with access tags". This makes the default

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread David Woolley
On 15/03/2019 01:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: AFAIA, neither tag had any impied permissions or condition attributes. They do, and they are country specific.