Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

[Rob Nickerson]

Sure I get that from a code point of view, although I was surprised Google
allowed 2 almost identical versions (name and logo) on the store.
Personally I was coming from a marketing and user friendliness point of
view. It's confusing for users and will probably cost the new developer
time in the long run as he/she will probably get some issues raised on
GitHub that relate to the "other" OSM Tracker.

Would have thought a rebrand would have been useful if no way to get the
old app down. Likewise I would have thought a few minutes to make the app
look more maintained on the OSM wiki (e.g. update screenshots, removal of
PDA survey) would of been a help to attract new users.

Anyway, not an issue for me (as I don't use it) so I won't loose any sleep
over this one. Certainly not "upset" just confused by the situation.

*Rob*


On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 12:45, Andy Townsend  wrote:

> > Why on earth are there 2 versions of OSMTracker for Android on the Play
> store?!
>
> It's open source software, so it's fairly technically straightforward to
> "clone, modify and resubmit".  What restrictions Google put on this sort of
> thing currently I don't know, but I suspect they're mostly limited to an
> API usage check and a " dodgy code behaviour" check (that'd be the case for
> an Enterprise Play Store submission).
>
> > Which is the right one and how to get an old one removed?
>
> Maybe there isn't one "right one" ?  My recollection was that there was a
> problem with OSM-hosted tile usage in one of the versions (which may have
> been since resolved) and there was a bit of a delay getting it fxed.
> Perhaps someone fixed it in "another" version in the meantime?
>
> Whatever it is, I'd suggest that the best place to ask the question would
> be to the relevant app authors via the Play Store support link, or github
> (at least one of them has a public issues list there).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

[Mark Thomas]

Nice to have a chance to try out your layout file - I've been intending to
do something similar for ages. It looks far more useful to me than the
default layout.
My only problem with it are that the icons are far too big for my phone - I
get a huge icon with the centre of yours displayed very pixelated. See
screenshot

 osmtracker.png

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Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

[Simon Poole]

The first one is the original that is no longer maintained (was
announced two years back or so). The 2nd one is a fork that seems to be
reasonably current. Technically it is not possible to replace an
existing app without access to the certificate used for signing it and
the dev account, so fixing the issue would require the original
maintainer taking the app down.

Outside of that I'm not quite sure what the issue is supposed to be. If
you get that upset about a random bit of unmaintained software, you are
going to be spending an awful lot of time being unhappy.

Simon

Am 17.08.2019 um 13:20 schrieb Rob Nickerson:
> Why on earth are there 2 versions of OSMTracker for Android on the
> Play store?! How is that in any way user friendly? Which is the right
> one and how to get an old one removed?
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmtracker
>
> I also find the "PDA display resolution survey" on the wiki
> incredible. Gives me the impression that this is not maintained
> software. The screenshots are massively out of date too. Anyone
> willing to do a quick update?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMTracker_(Android)
>
> Thanks,
> *Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

[Andy Townsend]

 > Why on earth are there 2 versions of OSMTracker for Android on the Play store?! It's open source software, so it's fairly technically straightforward to "clone, modify and resubmit".  What restrictions Google put on this sort of thing currently I don't know, but I suspect they're mostly limited to an API usage check and a " dodgy code behaviour" check (that'd be the case for an Enterprise Play Store submission).> Which is the right one and how to get an old one removed?   Maybe there isn't one "right one" ?  My recollection was that there was a problem with OSM-hosted tile usage in one of the versions (which may have been since resolved) and there was a bit of a delay getting it fxed.  Perhaps someone fixed it in "another" version in the meantime?Whatever it is, I'd suggest that the best place to ask the question would be to the relevant app authors via the Play Store support link, or github (at least one of them has a public issues list there).Best Regards,Andy   ___
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

[Rob Nickerson]

Why on earth are there 2 versions of OSMTracker for Android on the Play
store?! How is that in any way user friendly? Which is the right one and
how to get an old one removed?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmtracker

I also find the "PDA display resolution survey" on the wiki incredible.
Gives me the impression that this is not maintained software. The
screenshots are massively out of date too. Anyone willing to do a quick
update?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMTracker_(Android)

Thanks,
*Rob*
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[Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

[Nick Allen]

Hi,

I've started to create a detailed layout for use in OSMTracker for Android,
which hopefully will help in surveying paths and tracks, and subsequently
updating OSM. It's slightly different to the original layout within the
app, and it has buttons for UK designations, access restrictions,
smoothness, surface, and a few other features which I think will help.

In order to use this layout, you will need to install OSMTracker for
Android (there are 2 versions of OSMTracker, so make sure you have the
correct one. Once installed, go to settings, Button Presets, and click on
the green cross top right, then click on the spanner symbol. Tick Custom,
and;
Github username = Nick-Tallguy
Repository name = osmtracker-android-layouts
Branch name = master

Click save, and you should have the option to click on a number of
different layouts created by other contributors, and WALK RIDE DETAILED.
Click this, and a brief message will appear explaining its use - if you're
happy, click download, and make your way back to the start screen, making
sure to put a tick in 'walk ride detailed'. When you next start a new track
you will see this layout. You can change between layouts whilst tracking if
you wish. Don't forget to make a note of any PROW reference that may be
displayed.

I'd appreciate feedback on the layout - are there any buttons / labels you
would like adding (not too many - it may be better to create a new layout)?

Any problems, please get back to me. The layout is 'work in progress' and I
expect to alter it as a result of feedback.

There are more detailed guides at;
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMTracker_(Android)
https://github.com/labexp/osmtracker-android/wiki
and https://learnosm.org/en/mobile-mapping/osmtracker/ (this one's now a
little out of date and refers to the other version of OSMTracker).

To find a PROW that needs a survey, take a look at
https://osm.mathmos.net/survey/ and make sure you have a tick in 'Public
Rights of Way'.

Regards

Nick
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