Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ian Spencer Sent: 11 May 2010 10:55 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source (Newbie alert!!) I suspect this has been discussed

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Robert Whittaker (OSM Talk GB) Sent: 11 May 2010 11:43 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source On 11 May 2010 21:30, martyn i...@dynoyo.plus.com wrote: In Hertfordshire, East Herts publish maps that are drawn on top of an OS layer.  But for each

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-12 Thread Ian Spencer
James Davis wrote on 12/05/2010 10:05: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: My local library has the definitive statements in the one book, with subsequent versions over the ages added into the binding. So as you say its easy to compare what the statement says 50+ years ago and the

[Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Spencer
(Newbie alert!!) I suspect this has been discussed before, but it seems to me that there is a big hole in open source mapping, and that is getting hold of definitive maps in electronic form to be able to document them. I presume that the definitive map is a public document that should be

[Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Spencer
(Newbie alert!! - another try without the HTML setting) I suspect this has been discussed before, but it seems to me that there is a big hole in open source mapping, and that is getting hold of definitive maps in electronic form to be able to document them. I presume that the definitive map is

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Tom Hughes
On 11/05/10 11:22, Ian Spencer wrote: I presume that the definitive map is a public document that should be freely available. (???!!!) You assume wrongly. Well sort of - you have a right to inspect it but that doesn't mean you have a right to copy things from it. The main problem is that

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Spencer
OK. Thanks for the correction. I guess after that hullabaloo down South settles down, the thing to do is to get my local friendly MP to table a question on this and see where that leads. you'd hope it'd be a fairly open door, as it should not need the underlying mapping released and public

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Tom Hughes
On 11/05/10 11:39, Ian Spencer wrote: OK. Thanks for the correction. I guess after that hullabaloo down South settles down, the thing to do is to get my local friendly MP to table a question on this and see where that leads. you'd hope it'd be a fairly open door, as it should not need the

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM Talk GB)
On 11 May 2010 11:58, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: It's my intention to ask about the whole path issue (will they release footpaths; definitive maps; derived data) at the presentation tomorrow evening (see other message). There are some interesting comments from OS about

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Ed Avis
Robert Whittaker (OSM Talk GB robert.whittaker+osm-talk...@... writes: Apparently OS regards the PRoW data as containing IP belonging to the local authorities (who maintain the definitive maps), and so were unable to release them as part of OpenData. This is a nicely executed bureaucratic

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread martyn
In Hertfordshire, East Herts publish maps that are drawn on top of an OS layer. But for each parish, they also publish a text description of each numbered right of way, last updated in 2006. Useful as not all real-world physical signs have the number. So using that with the NPE layer in

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Paths Map Source

2010-05-11 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM Talk GB)
On 11 May 2010 21:30, martyn i...@dynoyo.plus.com wrote: In Hertfordshire, East Herts publish maps that are drawn on top of an OS layer.  But for each parish, they also publish a text description of each numbered right of way, last updated in 2006.  Useful as not all real-world physical signs