Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
I have featured a bit of HS2 in today's OSMUK Insta posting https://www.instagram.com/p/B_P2HmGnGsi/ On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:22 PM Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi Andy > > I think maybe a bit premature to make the change you've suggested. OK to > convert parcels of land to landuse-=construction as and when HS2 activity > gets going - even if its only demolition. > > Regards > > Brian > > On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 11:48, Andy Robinson wrote: > >> Tony, thus far all the construction activity has been and is enabling >> works. That is mostly related to relocating utilities (especially the major >> ones), site clearances and the establishment of the working compounds. Many >> of these have already in full or in part been mapped into OSM. As yet they >> haven’t mostly been fencing off the main line route. I expect we will see >> that happen soon for the over land sections. In London not much change will >> be visible beyond the current clearances and site compound set-ups. The >> shafts and portals for the main tunnels will be about the only obvious new >> work in the future outside of the station developments. The construction of >> the stations themselves is not yet confirmed. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> *From:* Tony OSM [mailto:tonyo...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* 17 April 2020 10:02 >> *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP >> >> >> >> we've seen news reports of parts of the alignment fenced off and invaded >> by protestors - those parts are certainly under construction, and the >> pictures show that bulldozers have been active. I think if we can identify >> those areas then construction is now correct. >> >> Tony Shield >> >> TonyS999 >> >> On 17/04/2020 09:14, Andy Robinson wrote: >> >> Jez, I think the actual rails may be a long way off but I agree it’s an >> opportunity to stay ahead of the completion. >> >> >> >> A question for the whole list. How do folks feel about changing the Phase >> 1 route from rail=proposed to rail=construction. Perhaps it’s a bit >> premature but then perhaps not. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> *From:* Jez Nicholson [mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com >> ] >> *Sent:* 16 April 2020 22:15 >> *To:* Andy Robinson >> *Cc:* Talk-GB >> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP >> >> >> >> Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 >> rails data. >> >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, wrote: >> >> Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the >> main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start >> imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though >> I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) >> >> >> >> Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design >> related. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Talk-GB mailing list >> >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
Hi Andy I think maybe a bit premature to make the change you've suggested. OK to convert parcels of land to landuse-=construction as and when HS2 activity gets going - even if its only demolition. Regards Brian On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 11:48, Andy Robinson wrote: > Tony, thus far all the construction activity has been and is enabling > works. That is mostly related to relocating utilities (especially the major > ones), site clearances and the establishment of the working compounds. Many > of these have already in full or in part been mapped into OSM. As yet they > haven’t mostly been fencing off the main line route. I expect we will see > that happen soon for the over land sections. In London not much change will > be visible beyond the current clearances and site compound set-ups. The > shafts and portals for the main tunnels will be about the only obvious new > work in the future outside of the station developments. The construction of > the stations themselves is not yet confirmed. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > > > *From:* Tony OSM [mailto:tonyo...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 17 April 2020 10:02 > *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP > > > > we've seen news reports of parts of the alignment fenced off and invaded > by protestors - those parts are certainly under construction, and the > pictures show that bulldozers have been active. I think if we can identify > those areas then construction is now correct. > > Tony Shield > > TonyS999 > > On 17/04/2020 09:14, Andy Robinson wrote: > > Jez, I think the actual rails may be a long way off but I agree it’s an > opportunity to stay ahead of the completion. > > > > A question for the whole list. How do folks feel about changing the Phase > 1 route from rail=proposed to rail=construction. Perhaps it’s a bit > premature but then perhaps not. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > > > *From:* Jez Nicholson [mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* 16 April 2020 22:15 > *To:* Andy Robinson > *Cc:* Talk-GB > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP > > > > Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 > rails data. > > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, wrote: > > Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the > main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start > imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though > I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) > > > > Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design > related. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
Tony, thus far all the construction activity has been and is enabling works. That is mostly related to relocating utilities (especially the major ones), site clearances and the establishment of the working compounds. Many of these have already in full or in part been mapped into OSM. As yet they haven’t mostly been fencing off the main line route. I expect we will see that happen soon for the over land sections. In London not much change will be visible beyond the current clearances and site compound set-ups. The shafts and portals for the main tunnels will be about the only obvious new work in the future outside of the station developments. The construction of the stations themselves is not yet confirmed. Cheers Andy From: Tony OSM [mailto:tonyo...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 April 2020 10:02 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP we've seen news reports of parts of the alignment fenced off and invaded by protestors - those parts are certainly under construction, and the pictures show that bulldozers have been active. I think if we can identify those areas then construction is now correct. Tony Shield TonyS999 On 17/04/2020 09:14, Andy Robinson wrote: Jez, I think the actual rails may be a long way off but I agree it’s an opportunity to stay ahead of the completion. A question for the whole list. How do folks feel about changing the Phase 1 route from rail=proposed to rail=construction. Perhaps it’s a bit premature but then perhaps not. Cheers Andy From: Jez Nicholson [mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com] Sent: 16 April 2020 22:15 To: Andy Robinson Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 rails data. On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, wrote: Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design related. Cheers Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
+1 for changing Phase One to rail=construction although not, like my earlier typo, rails=construction ;) On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:03 AM Tony OSM wrote: > we've seen news reports of parts of the alignment fenced off and invaded > by protestors - those parts are certainly under construction, and the > pictures show that bulldozers have been active. I think if we can identify > those areas then construction is now correct. > > Tony Shield > > TonyS999 > On 17/04/2020 09:14, Andy Robinson wrote: > > Jez, I think the actual rails may be a long way off but I agree it’s an > opportunity to stay ahead of the completion. > > > > A question for the whole list. How do folks feel about changing the Phase > 1 route from rail=proposed to rail=construction. Perhaps it’s a bit > premature but then perhaps not. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > > > *From:* Jez Nicholson [mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* 16 April 2020 22:15 > *To:* Andy Robinson > *Cc:* Talk-GB > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP > > > > Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 > rails data. > > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, wrote: > > Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the > main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start > imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though > I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) > > > > Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design > related. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing > listTalk-GB@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
we've seen news reports of parts of the alignment fenced off and invaded by protestors - those parts are certainly under construction, and the pictures show that bulldozers have been active. I think if we can identify those areas then construction is now correct. Tony Shield TonyS999 On 17/04/2020 09:14, Andy Robinson wrote: Jez, I think the actual rails may be a long way off but I agree it’s an opportunity to stay ahead of the completion. A question for the whole list. How do folks feel about changing the Phase 1 route from rail=proposed to rail=construction. Perhaps it’s a bit premature but then perhaps not. Cheers Andy *From:*Jez Nicholson [mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 16 April 2020 22:15 *To:* Andy Robinson *Cc:* Talk-GB *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 rails data. On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, <mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com>> wrote: Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design related. Cheers Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
Jez, I think the actual rails may be a long way off but I agree it’s an opportunity to stay ahead of the completion. A question for the whole list. How do folks feel about changing the Phase 1 route from rail=proposed to rail=construction. Perhaps it’s a bit premature but then perhaps not. Cheers Andy From: Jez Nicholson [mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com] Sent: 16 April 2020 22:15 To: Andy Robinson Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 rails data. On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, wrote: Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design related. Cheers Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
Thanks Andy, this is opportunity for OSM to be *the* best source of HS2 rails data. On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, 17:48 Andy Robinson, wrote: > Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the > main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start > imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though > I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) > > > > Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design > related. > > > > Cheers > > Andy > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] HS2 Phase 1 Construction NTP
Government issued Notice to Procced for Phase 1 today, which means the main contracts construction between London and Birmingham will start imminently so keep an eye out for major new works in your area soon (though I expect these will be slow to spot while we are in lockdown!) Till now all works relating to HS2 have been enabling works or design related. Cheers Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
