Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

2017-03-24 11:31 GMT+00:00 Andy Mabbett : > On 24 March 2017 at 00:48, Andy Townsend wrote: > >> On 19/03/2017 14:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> >>> "On 19 March 2017 at 13:13, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/03/2017 12:52,

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

Harry, and everyone else, I'm sure Brian will get back to everyone on all of this when he's back in circulation. He's not been around since these issues were raised. There is obviously a lot to digest and clearly there are some specific points to take on board so I'm sure when he's had time to

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

I've created a wiki page specifically about the tree data import. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Birmingham_City_Council_trees_data It would be better if somebody involved in running the import, would do this (per the Import Guidelines), but I've drawn together various info I could find

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 22 March 2017 at 09:24, Gregory wrote: > Besides notification, shall we now focus on actual concerns/comments on the > imports taking place? Please bear in mind that contacting the mailing lists isn't just for the purposes of "notification", but is also supposed

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

I've been roughly following this thread, and feel I should add some balance. *As a director of OpenStreetMap UK,* If you have a point/discussion to make on that organisation or the collective of OSMers in the UK, please make another thread for it. Someone said it's not a good way to treat a

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 21/03/2017 11:20, Andy Allan wrote (more than this): I feel this is a politely phrased way of saying "we will continue to ignore everyone and carry on what we're doing already". Thanks, Andy My take from previous mails is that all you need to do to import data now is go to the pub and

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 20 March 2017 at 12:34, Rob Nickerson wrote: > I've no idea why Brian didn't follow the rules. I expect he probably didn't > know about them. I have emails from Brian discussing imports as far back as 2009. I find it unlikely that with 8 years of experience he

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

2017-03-20 12:17 GMT+00:00 Andy Allan : > On 19 March 2017 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> >> I don't think any of us are members of the import mailing list and I don't >> see the point of joining any more mailing lists. They

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 19 March 2017 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I don't think any of us are members of the import mailing list and I don't > see the point of joining any more mailing lists. They represent an arcane > 20th century solution that allows a few negative

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 20 March 2017 at 12:34, Rob Nickerson wrote: > I've no idea why Brian didn't follow the rules. I expect he probably didn't > know about them. I have emails from Brian discussing imports as far back as 2009. I find it unlikely that with 8 years of experience he

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

Hi Andy, Sure. Might have to give us a few days though before we come back to you. Can you also look at the import guidelines as it feels very heavy handed (almost police state) currently? I appreciate this is a big ask (I help SotM WG and understand the pressure WGs can be under) but I wonder

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 20/03/2017 12:34, Rob Nickerson wrote: Let's step back, allow for this data to be completed (else it will be in a worse case) and find a sensible way forward for the guidelines when we have time to think with a fresh mind. Thanks Rob. Looking forward from here, would it be possible to

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

Hi, Am 20.03.2017 um 15:46 schrieb Dan S: I concur with the perspectives given by Andy Allen and Richard Fairhurst. total agree. walter ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

2017-03-20 12:17 GMT+00:00 Andy Allan : > On 19 March 2017 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> >> I don't think any of us are members of the import mailing list and I don't >> see the point of joining any more mailing lists. They

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Import Progress

Hi Andy, I've no idea why Brian didn't follow the rules. I expect he probably didn't know about them. I'm worn out from many years trying to discuss improvements but getting the equivalent of a parliamentary filibuster. I personally think best way to solve this is to allow local communities

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 19 March 2017 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I don't think any of us are members of the import mailing list and I don't > see the point of joining any more mailing lists. They represent an arcane > 20th century solution that allows a few negative

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 19/03/2017 21:29, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Or is your post simply a request for all people to follow *your* rules? Wow. Stay classy. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to reply to that, but there's an extensive debate about that sentence in the mailing list archives a propos of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 19 March 2017 at 20:55, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > However, just because I no longer spend my time batting back and forth to > every post on the lists, that does not mean I have the right to ignore the > same community guidelines which everyone else follows. Can you show

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 19 March 2017 at 19:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Please consider whether your words might offend ...and the goes on to equate a disagreement over import procedures to racist ethnic cleansing. That's *really* unacceptable. Who moderates this mailing list? -- Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 19/03/2017 19:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: It would be great if that exposed situation would make them lead by example, rather than assume that everyone else's rules don't apply to them. Yes. I've noticed a couple of 'we know best' & 'this is a local community for local people' style comments.

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

Rob, On 03/19/2017 04:04 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > I don't think any of us are members of the import mailing list and I > don't see the point of joining any more mailing lists. They represent an > arcane 20th century solution that allows a few negative comments to > derail a locally supported

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

Rob Nickerson wrote: > Mailing list posts drift off topic way too easily any it's never clear > when "consensus" is found. Richard F did the right thing in 2013 > when he quit them and I encourage others to do the same However, just because I no longer spend my time batting back and forth to

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

So you decided that the Imports mailing list isn't useful and is too 20th Century for you. Don't you see how arrogant and disconnected you sound? An hour a week was spent in the provider's office, but not once was the process required by OSM to do imports mentioned? It may have been done by

[Talk-GB] Import Progress

Hi Chris, I don't think any of us are members of the import mailing list and I don't see the point of joining any more mailing lists. They represent an arcane 20th century solution that allows a few negative comments to derail a locally supported project. Mailing list posts drift off topic way