Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-29 Thread Adam Hoyle
Hi Nick, Thats awesome - thank you :-) Best, Adam On 26 Jan 2013, at 15:30, Nick Whitelegg wrote: OK should have both Oxfordshire and Bucks now. (discovered the latter was also on geofabrik) It may take some time to render first time you try somewhere out, as it's got to generate

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-26 Thread Nick Whitelegg
OK should have both Oxfordshire and Bucks now. (discovered the latter was also on geofabrik) It may take some time to render first time you try somewhere out, as it's got to generate the geojson from the database... but the geojson is now cached making it much faster on subsequent requests.

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-26 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Sorry - to follow that up, contours aren't available for the whole of the area.  I'll try and sort this out but might be some time as I don't have the files to hand. Nick -Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: - To: Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com From: Nick

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-25 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Barry, On 24 Jan 2013 11:38, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: Please can you confirm that the routes are now better... The Devon kml data looks spot on now. thanks, Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-25 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 24 Jan 2013, at 14:34, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Not entirely tangential question - Is there any chance that the designation tag will be rendered in the default mapnik anytime soon / ever? Or is there somewhere that already exists that renders designations? Yes - www.free-map.org.uk. (at

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Not entirely tangential question - Is there any chance that the designation tag will be rendered in the default mapnik anytime soon / ever? Or is there somewhere that already exists that renders designations?  Yes - www.free-map.org.uk. (at least for southern and northern England and Wales)

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-25 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 25 Jan 2013, at 10:42, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Not entirely tangential question - Is there any chance that the designation tag will be rendered in the default mapnik anytime soon / ever? Or is there somewhere that already exists that renders designations? Yes - www.free-map.org.uk.

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 23:22, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Kevin Peat wrote: The Converted kml file for Devon on this page: http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ Great, thanks. Each path has a name, e.g.: DN Seaton Footpath 2 It would help if you gave the

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 23 January 2013 19:38, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: No extra designation tag is needed in my opinion. If they are on the authorities list of streets, then they are legally exactly the same as any other road. Therefore highway=unclassified would be fine. The issue arises

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 January 2013 09:09, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: highway=track, access=yes, designation=unclassified_highway ...makes sense to me for those I have seen. These tracks have no signage at all but clearly there are public access rights which would be nice

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Kevin Peat wrote: If you look at DN Dartmouth Bridleway 1 with the OS map background you can see it is offset a little to the south. Following some e-mail exchanges with Devon County Council, on 23rd December I corrected a few errors in the metadata of a few routes.

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 24 Jan 2013, at 09:09, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: This way of doing the tagging is consistent with what is commonly already done with Public Rights of Way. The highway=* tag records the physical appearance of the way (footway, track, road, etc.), the designation=* tag gives the

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Not entirely tangential question - Is there any chance that the designation tag will be rendered in the default mapnik anytime soon / ever? Or is there somewhere that already exists that renders designations?  Yes - www.free-map.org.uk. (at least for southern and northern England and Wales)

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 24 January 2013 14:28, Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com wrote: Not entirely tangential question - Is there any chance that the designation tag will be rendered in the default mapnik anytime soon / ever? Or is there somewhere that already exists that renders designations? Since the

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 Jan 2013 11:38, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: Please can you confirm that the routes are now better... Thanks for that. I'll check it out and let you know (will probably be tomorrow now). Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 Jan 2013 15:02, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: Since the public rights of way tagging using designation=* is a very British (actually English and Welsh) thing, I doubt it will ever be rendered on the main OSM map. :-( I don't really see why that

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013, Rob Nickerson wrote: Barry, Local government regions in England can be very confusing. For public rights of way the responsibility of legally collating these on the Definitive Map and Statement lies with those regions that are “surveying authorities”. This is the same as the

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Rob Nickerson
In regards to Other roads with public access (ORPA) - this is a term that the Ordnance Survey have used, in other places they are called Unclassified County Road. Most often they are legally the same as a normal road (and should therefore appear in the Local Authorities list if streets, in which

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 18:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: ... Thanks for that. Any thoughts on whether they should be specifically tagged in OSM? Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Rob Nickerson
No extra designation tag is needed in my opinion. If they are on the authorities list of streets, then they are legally exactly the same as any other road. Therefore highway=unclassified would be fine. The issue arises when they are not well maintained, narrow, or not suitable for some larger

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 19:38, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote Ideas welcome (I've not seen enough examples to get an understanding of what these roads are actually like on the ground - photos ... This is one: http://m.google.co.uk/u/m/R9HAqI The ones I have surveyed are glorified farm

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Rob Nickerson
I'm not sure if anyone will be able to help bring some degree of firmness to this, but it is my belief that roads that are on the Local Authority list of streets appear with a solid border in OS StreetView map. So for your example:

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Kevin Peat wrote: I also noticed that the Devon data (using the kml from your site in josm) appears to be consistently offset a few metres south of where it should be. Not a big deal just FYI really. Which kml file are you referring to? Please give me a URL so that I can

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 21:42, Barry Cornelius barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote: Which kml file are you referring to? Please give me a URL so that I can download the kml and check... The Converted kml file for Devon on this page: http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ Kevin

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Kevin Peat wrote: The Converted kml file for Devon on this page: http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ Great, thanks. Each path has a name, e.g.: DN Seaton Footpath 2 It would help if you gave the names of some of the paths you have problems with. Sorry, I should have

[Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-04 Thread Rob Nickerson
Barry, Local government regions in England can be very confusing. For public rights of way the responsibility of legally collating these on the Definitive Map and Statement lies with those regions that are “surveying authorities”. This is the same as the 152 (151 if you exclude the “City of