Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 12 May 2015, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: It's three only because of retagging reluctance specific to the UK: ...In the UK, the various mappers who own boats quite rightly pointed out (whilst well-intended) the proposed mechanical transformations would lead to data-inaccuracies. My hope was

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I think I preferred the highway_authority_ref only to differentiate it from a reference applied by any other body. You could have more than one official_ref depending on the referencing body. Why not

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: My hope was that the owners of the mechanic retaggering bots involved would carefully reflect upon this advice and instead try to betterunderstand the subject matter in greater detail beforehand. Nothing in the UK was

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread phil
On Tue May 12 17:35:30 2015 GMT+0100, SomeoneElse wrote: On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) pedant PROW refs are also allocated by the highway authority. /pedant

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Colin Smale
or ref:issuer as a more generic way of indicating the scope/domain of the value of ref? Whatever we end up with, I would also like to see a way of tagging both the signed, official-looking ref *and* the actual administrative ref. One example of where the two values diverge is where a road has

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) Yeah, but unlike the real world depicted in the cartoon, OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread phil
The quoted source of these refs is no longer available, so no easy way to check validity. Phil (trigpoint ) On Tue May 12 10:11:46 2015 GMT+0100, SomeoneElse wrote: On 12/05/2015 09:52, Bob Kerr wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 11:22, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Maybe the tag unsigned_ref is an outcome? 0 uses in the UK: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/unsigned_ref There are 86 ref:signed=no (mostly by me, so not a widely used tag) but that's where something demonstrably is the real

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 11:30, Andy Robinson wrote: Where I see these on C/U roads I change the ref= tag to highway_authority_ref= http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/highway_authority_ref 276 of those - that's one that I wasn't aware of! Cheers, Andy

[Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Bob Kerr
On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. This is all over the highlands https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/57.5695/-4.4282 Cheers Bob

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 09:52, Bob Kerr wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. This is all over the highlands https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/57.5695/-4.4282 I don't think

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 12 May 2015, SomeoneElse wrote: On 12/05/2015 09:52, Bob Kerr wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. This is all over the highlands

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 12 May 2015 10:57, Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. No, rendering has not changed in this respect. Maybe the tag

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Andy Robinson
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads On 12/05/2015 11:30, Andy Robinson wrote: Where I see these on C/U roads I change the ref= tag to highway_authority_ref= Cheers Andy I prefer that to official_ref. Much clearer origin. General query

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Dave F.
On 12/05/2015 11:30, Andy Robinson wrote: Where I see these on C/U roads I change the ref= tag to highway_authority_ref= Cheers Andy I prefer that to official_ref. Much clearer origin. General query: As there are many of these around the country auto edits are seriously frowned upon

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Andy Robinson
Where I see these on C/U roads I change the ref= tag to highway_authority_ref= Cheers Andy From: Matthijs Melissen [mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl] Sent: 12 May 2015 11:22 To: Bob Kerr Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads On 12 May 2015 10:57, Bob Kerr