Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Guided Busway Cycleway
On 16/09/2013 10:08, Oliver Jowett wrote: On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:58 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: It's signposted as a bridleway (only the northern section), so it is technically correct. On the basis of map whatbyou see on the ground, thats a valid change. So long as it have bicycle=yes, and retains the NCN information, I don't think it matters that much. Oliver is right though, use by horses is essentially non existent. In visual terms, one might call it a track, which happens to be designated a bridleway. It does render differently (I know, don't tag for the renderer, but it seems reasonable for a renderer to infer the primary use from the highway tag) If you're on a road bike you'd usually want to avoid anything that shows up as a brideway .. Taking a bike down http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/52724259 was interesting :) Indeed, but it's a rather subjective approach. The usual rule is map what you see, not what you think, and in this case it is signed as a bridleway (and is also designated as such). A good rendering would take note of the surface tag when displaying cycle specific information. David ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-midanglia
Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Guided Busway Cycleway
On 16 September 2013 11:49, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: On 16/09/2013 10:08, Oliver Jowett wrote: It does render differently (I know, don't tag for the renderer, but it seems reasonable for a renderer to infer the primary use from the highway tag) Indeed, but it's a rather subjective approach. The usual rule is map what you see, not what you think, and in this case it is signed as a bridleway (and is also designated as such). A good rendering would take note of the surface tag when displaying cycle specific information. Well, it does already have designation=public_bridleway too. I'll try to ride the length of the path some time checking what exactly is signposted. I wonder if cyclestreets assigns different costs to highway=bridleway vs highway=cycleway? It does show them differently in the resulting directions, at least. Oliver ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-midanglia
Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Guided Busway Cycleway
On 16/09/2013 12:52, Oliver Jowett wrote: I'll try to ride the length of the path some time checking what exactly is signposted. http://www.cyclestreets.net/location/32577/ I wonder if cyclestreets assigns different costs to highway=bridleway vs highway=cycleway? It does show them differently in the resulting directions, at least. I'll ask Simon. David ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-midanglia
Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Guided Busway Cycleway
It's signposted as a bridleway (only the northern section), so it is technically correct. On the basis of map whatbyou see on the ground, thats a valid change. So long as it have bicycle=yes, and retains the NCN information, I don't think it matters that much. Oliver is right though, use by horses is essentially non existent. In visual terms, one might call it a track, which happens to be designated a bridleway. The southern section is specifically designated as a cycleway. David On Sunday, September 15, 2013, Oliver Jowett wrote: I guess the argument is about what the primary use is - and in practice I see a lot more cyclists than horses on it. I don't recall noticing that the {cycle,bridle}way is actually named on the ground, so I'm not sure if name= should even be present. Everyone seems to call it something slightly different anyway, but I don't think I've ever heard guided busway brideway. Oliver On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, richard moss richardm...@yahoo.co.ukjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'richardm...@yahoo.co.uk'); wrote: I notice that a relatively new contributor has, in his only day of edits last month, changed the highway tag from cycleway to bridleway, and the name from Guided Busway Cycleway to Guided Busway Bridleway for the whole length of the path from Milton Road to St Ives. Any thoughts? (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JamieAbbott ) He has actually made an error, in that the last bit of the path through the St Ives PR is not designated bridleway, it is designated cycleway (the bridleway goes off north to Meadow Lane). ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-midanglia ___ Talk-gb-midanglia mailing list Talk-gb-midanglia@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-midanglia