Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline and tidal rivers

2018-08-29 Thread David Groom
-- Original Message -- From: "Mike Evans" To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: "David Groom" Sent: 28/08/2018 19:22:16 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline and tidal rivers On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:09:47 + "David Groom" wrote: There is no consensus. Personally I'm not in favour of

Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths app

2018-08-29 Thread Nick Whitelegg
... oops, forgot to mention the app is Android only, not iOS - and only supports API 23+ (Marshmallow upwards). There is now a rough guide, based on yesterday's email, available on the MapThePaths site. Apologies for the lack of detail on this: I am going away and have little time at the

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-29 Thread Brian Prangle
I thought that you said c roads would remain in NI but judging by Clive's reaction I thought something must have changed. He's obviously not convinced that c roads are going to remain in NI so perhaps you should make it even more abundantly and explicitly clear that this is the case and have it

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-29 Thread Brian Prangle
Thanks for your polite request Richard. I stand by my assessment, based not on your intentions or character but based on the result. Regards Brian On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 21:40, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Brian Prangle wrote: > > I suggest at the very least that the change is reverted for NI. >

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline and tidal rivers

2018-08-29 Thread Mike Evans
Hi David On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:09:58 + "David Groom" wrote: > >>There is no consensus. > >> > >>Personally I'm not in favour of the view that any body of water which > >>is > >>tidal should be bounded by a way tagged as coastline. > >> > >>Reasons for this > >> > >>1) Ask any one who

Re: [Talk-GB] Some leisure=track not rendering

2018-08-29 Thread Dave F
Hi Hmm.. strange. Note Cycle Map does still render Check here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/v4.10.0...v4.13.0 Raise a query here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues Cheers DaveF On 28/08/2018 18:48, jc...@mail.com wrote: Has there been a

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-29 Thread Martin Wynne
Even in these days of Brexit, I don't think there's any movement for Northern Ireland to leave GB. You've been misinformed! Hi Toby, Northern Ireland is part of the UK but it's not part of GB. GB is England, Scotland and Wales. The official title of this country is "The United Kingdom of

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread David Woolley
On 29/08/18 20:25, Toby Speight wrote: Thanks for that - it predates my joining this list. It seems to (partially) answer only my first question - it's to benefit those who don't like their rendering (on paper/screen or on a navigation device). That's why we have rendering rules - if you don't

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-29 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article <6591308.YUxS5xHkjF@solus>, 0> WebMaster@Killyfole org uk mailto:webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> ("Wou") wrote: Wou> ... GB doesn't include Northern Ireland, ... Even in these days of Brexit, I don't think there's any movement for Northern Ireland to leave GB. You've been

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/08/2018 20:25, Toby Speight wrote: Thanks for that - it predates my joining this list. It seems to (partially) answer only my first question - it's to benefit those who don't like their rendering (on paper/screen or on a navigation device). That's why we have rendering rules - if you

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-29 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article , 0> Dan S. mailto:danstowell%2b...@gmail.com> ("Dan") wrote: Dan> The documentation happened after-the-fact rather than in advance, Dan> as the AECoC demands. There's still no documentation on the tag wiki at [1] or [2]. Interestingly, there is a mention of "unsigned_ref" [3]

[Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-29 Thread Jubal Harpster
Hi Everyone, Our Open Maps team (https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps) has been taking a closer look at OSM in the UK. Some of you may have seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s ongoing OSM work in Australia. We found a few examples of roads missing names that we

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article , 0> Dave F. mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> ("Dave") wrote: Dave> Point about OSM wiki: IMO giving multiple options for the same Dave> entity leads to confusion & errors so should be avoided. That's exactly what's problematic about "highways_authority_ref": it creates a tag

Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-29 Thread David Woolley
On 29/08/18 21:21, Jubal Harpster wrote: Rosneath Castle Caravan Park https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/92291906 _https://goo.gl/maps/5zn1EEXwYER2_ _https://binged.it/2BCrYOr_ OSM has the name on the actual caravan park, which sounds more likely:

Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-29 Thread Lester Caine
On 29/08/18 21:21, Jubal Harpster wrote: Stadium Mews https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/260127900 https://goo.gl/maps/JJNxamCgLy12 _https://binged.it/2C0LAw1_ PAF file ... N5 1FP -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - https://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Dave F
On 29/08/2018 20:44, Toby Speight wrote: 0> In article , 0> Dave F. mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> ("Dave") wrote: Dave> Point about OSM wiki: IMO giving multiple options for the same Dave> entity leads to confusion & errors so should be avoided. That's exactly what's problematic about

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-29 Thread Dave F
On 29/08/2018 20:35, Toby Speight wrote: Wou> ... GB doesn't include Northern Ireland, ... Even in these days of Brexit, I don't think there's any movement for Northern Ireland to leave GB. You've been misinformed! Sorry Toby, but it's you who's been misinformed.

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Dave F
On 29/08/2018 20:32, Toby Speight wrote: I consider it a "niche" that wants them hidden. The vast, vast majority are hidden on the ground. I don't see that we have to mis-tag them all to have them hidden - I can see it would be useful to have a map with less clutter, but it shouldn't be

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article , 0> Andrew Hain mailto:andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk> ("Andrew") wrote: Andrew> Toby, I really think you need to read through the conversation Andrew> archived at Andrew> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2018-August/thread.html Andrew> and answer the points

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Toby Speight
0> In article <1535456684095-0.p...@n8.nabble.com>, 0> Richard Fairhurst mailto:rich...@systemed.net> ("Richard") wrote: Richard> Toby Speight wrote: >> Who is responsible for coordinating the related changes to software - >> editors, renderers, converters and QA tools - that are required? I >>

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Toby Speight wrote: > That's why we have > rendering rules - if you don't like the rendering, change the rules. What you're suggesting would imply that every worldwide site using OSM data to display a consumer-facing map, or provide routing, needs to write a special exception for Great Britain.