[Talk-GB] Milton Keynes Redways - How to Tag Consistently

2019-03-20 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I am relatively new to OSM, but am trying to contribute in a useful way, particularly in my local area (Milton Keynes). Milton Keynes enjoys (among many benefits) an extensive network of joint-use Cycle Paths / Foot Paths, known as “Redways” 

Re: [Talk-GB] Milton Keynes Redways - How to Tag Consistently

2019-03-21 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Thanks to all for the helpful responses. I have looked (again) at the OSM Tags for Routing at  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#United_Kingdomfrom which it is clear that foot=yes (for example) is implied by highway=cycleway. However, Andy's question (if

Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park missing?

2019-06-19 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Dave, Sorry to jump in, but perhaps your response was a little harsh? Even given such advice, not all mappers will feel confident to fix an issue. Perhaps it is better that they ask for help (again), rather than ignore the issue, or try to fix it an just make matters worse? Peter Sent from

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Running Overpass Turbo, it seems that they are concentrated in a small area, so probably "hipster" is a local term. Looking at a well-known global Aerial Imagery source, with links to Street level photography, shows at least 2 of them (adjacent to roads) to be narrow gaps in stone walls, so a

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Sorry, but, to me at least, a "chicane" involves a (double) bend. See: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chicane " NOUN1.  A sharp double bend created to form an obstacle on a motor-racing track or a road." and these seem to involve a narrow "sqeeze", not a double bend. Peter  On

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-10 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
ay, 10 July 2019, 21:20:36 BST, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: Personally, I would have thought of it as a club, in which first aid is taught, as a hobby ( No offence intended to any St John volunteers) Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Mark Goodge

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-10 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Personally, I would have thought of it as a club, in which first aid is taught, as a hobby ( No offence intended to any St John volunteers) Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Mark Goodge wrote: On 10/07/2019 19:08, Ben Proctor wrote: > Hello mapping

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

2019-09-05 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I am also a complete newbie to Maproulette, but have had a go at a couple of shop=yes near me. Some are easy enough, but others are rather tricky to tag correctly (surprise, surprise!), so I'll have to do some more research, both on the ground and in OSMWiki, to try to find an in-use tag that

[Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"

2019-07-31 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
If this is not the correct place / route to seek assistance with this issue, please advise me where to go. I see that, on a new housing estate near me, there are a number of "Fix Me" tags on highway=residential, which I would like to fix.   The tags all say, "noexit? turning_circle? stub?"

Re: [Talk-GB] Next quarters project will be fixmes and notes

2019-09-24 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I too have encountered a number of Notes that have been addressed, but not formally "Resolved".  (e.g. the name of a business marked on a building that now has that name tagged)  I surmise that this is because (in the iD editor, at least) the Notes are not visible when in Edit mode, so the

Re: [Talk-GB] Name Suggestion Index

2019-11-08 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hotel Chocolat could be tagged "shop=chocolate", I suppose, but chocolate is a sub-set of confectionery, so perhaps it should retain "shop=confectionery", so that users looking for a sugar high don't have to search for both shop=confectionery and shop=chocolate (and shop=boiled sweets and

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

2019-09-25 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
But, as I am sure has been said by someone else recently: a.  A shop is still a shop, even when it is closed.b.  A permanently closed shop that still has the signage / branding all over it is still a useful landmark. So, I think I would favour disused:shop=*  That way you know from the outset

Re: [Talk-GB] accurate GPS

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
... and if you had 2 devices, how would you know which is right? You would need at least 3 devices, so that you could take a majority vote.  Actually 5 would better Or 7, or 9   Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 12:34, Simon Ritchie wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] No Through Road Ahead

2019-12-19 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I can see the logic of placing the restriction on the bend, but how long is a "long vehicle"? Is there an official definition? Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 14:30, SK53 wrote: ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[Talk-GB] Fw: Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-19 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Many thanks to @Richard Fairhurst, @Warin and @ Paul Berry for their encouragement and help.  I will have a go at making the amendments using the iD Editor.   I'm not sure how soon that will happen, though, as I hear that Christmas is coming and Grandads like me are meant to spend time with

[Talk-GB] Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-18 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
NCN Route 51  has been changed in Central Milton Keynes.  It no longer goes through the intu Shopping Centre! I would love to amend the Route Relation, but have no idea how to go about it.  From following the Tagging Discussions, I think that elements should be added in the order that they are

[Talk-GB] Fw: Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-20 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Having unexpectedly found myself with a spare hour,  I have had a go at amending NCN 51 in central Milton Keynes.  There are 3 Changesets involved: #78646743. The main changes. I marked this to be reviewed,  but I do hope that nobody wants it reverted because I got a bit carried away.  As part

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-04 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
>> (Ironically, the current tagging makes it hard for me to search to see >> if there's a "proper" amenity=university in there somewhere, e.g. as a >> relation or area covering a large swathe of them.) > >There isn't, I'm afraid.. it's a right hotchpotch IMHO, it would be a waste of time, if you

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-05 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
 >On Tuesday, 4 February 2020, 16:40:21 GMT, Andy Townsend wrote:      >  >On 04/02/2020 15:37, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:  >>There isn't, I'm afraid.. it's a right hotchpotch  >>IMHO, it would be a waste of time, if you tried to create a single area obje

Re: [Talk-GB] Stale Developments

2020-01-10 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert, Thanks for producing this new tool.  I had already spotted the Bulldozer icon on the "Survey Me" map and, in my local area, I have already: Updated one Brownfield Site to Construction Site, where work has started after years of nothing.Deleted one Construction Site, where there is

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

2020-03-14 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
at this point. The UK community should nominate one or more, and ask the OWG to instate them as list moderators. In any case pleading to them here will not work (and likely wouldn't work even if there were some). Simon Am 13.03.2020 um 23:37 schrieb Peter Neale via Talk-GB: List Moderators

Re: [Talk-GB] Abusive posts

2020-03-14 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Matthew, Thanks for dealing with this. I'm just glad that it is so rare. Regards,Peter On Saturday, 14 March 2020, 12:14:46 GMT, Matthew Newton wrote: Hi all, Seen all the messages. Apologies for the delay in sorting this. In all the years I've been monitoring this list I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-09 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
:29:05 BST, Lester Caine wrote: On 03/04/2020 10:15, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: > So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to > order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a > birthday card? > > (I do not know what these UP

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
"Anyone?"  Huh?  (seems to be lacking the back-story!) Regards,Peter On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 15:16:45 BST, Andy Mabbett wrote: Anyone? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Thanks for pointing out how to import and convert the file.  After a bit of trial and error, I discovered how to get Excel to use the "¬" as the delimiter and (as you said), the addresses are quite inconsistent, but the data all lines up again in the Post Code Column.  There are some further

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert, As Boots' stores don't ALL have a pharmacy counter, IMHO they should be tagged as "shop=chemist".  Those that DO have a pharmacy (dispensing prescriptions) should be additionally tagged, either with "pharmacy=yes", or with a separate node for the pharmacy.  I think that would fit

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi  Robert, I looked up my 2 "wholesale" pharmacies on the list.  Unfortunately, they are both classed as "community", so will continue to be included in your checking tool. So... ...should we:a.  Continue as we are: Plot them in OSM, tag them as pharmacies, but give them a name that makes it

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert, I also don’t want to delete the objects completely; as they do exist, so we should be able to map them.   However, I do take your point that a pharmacy which is not open to the public is not an “amenity” in OSM.  So my 2 “wholesale” pharmacies do not meet the wiki definition of

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

2020-03-13 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Well. That's a powerful, reasoned argument (NOT!). If you don't have anything constructive to add to the debate   I suggest that you keep your opinions to yourself. Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 11:29, Daniel Holsey wrote:

[Talk-GB] Fw: European Water Project - Introduction

2020-03-13 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
reetmap.org Sent: Friday, 13 March 2020, 18:00:10 GMTSubject: Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction Can an admin please remove this swearing jerk from the mailing list, for totally unacceptable behaviour? On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 16:03, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: Well. That's a pow

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

2020-03-13 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
List Moderators, Please remove @Daniel Holsey from this list.  His contribution will not be missed. Regards,Peter On Friday, 13 March 2020, 21:31:57 GMT, Daniel Holsey wrote: Your A Nonce Mate On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 21:03, BD wrote: Hi, I quite like the idea of adding free water

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-03 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a birthday card? (I do not know what these UPRN's look like, but I bet they are not as easy to remember as "Rose Cottage, 3 Church Lane, XX3 4ZZ")  We have to

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I commend your efforts, but can I suggest a small change to your proposal? (I am still a bit of a novice on OSM, so please feel free to tell me I am totally wrong) Rather than "lcc:id=1849" should you not use, "id=lcc1849", or perhaps "ref=lcc1849", or even "ref:lcc=1849". I am not sure which

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a screen at editable zoom.   I am happy to spend a while trying this, but it is probably best if only one of us is stirring the pot at once. Regards,Peter

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
.   From: Peter Neale via Talk-GB Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:43 AM To: Talk-GB ; Jez Nicholson Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?   I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual points until the whole way is small enough to be shown

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
It seems that we have had 2 of us attempting the same change at the same time.  I hope that the database change  control can cope with this. I did try to avoid such a clash by responding here before starting work. Regards,Peter On Monday, 27 April 2020, 11:12:59 BST, Andy Townsend

Re: [Talk-GB] underfoot art

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
permanent artwork on the sides of buildings. But tagging pavement/street art that will vanish after a couple of showers seems pointless. From: Peter Neale via Talk-GB Sent: 26 April 2020 18:38:06 To: mar...@templot.com Cc: Talk-gb OSM List Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] underfoot art   Pavement art

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
309666 m: 07968 341930 skype: nealepb On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:44:26 BST, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a screen at editable zoom.   I am happy

Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Sorry if I did not make myself clear enough.  (Every day is a new learning opportunity!) At least it's good to know that I have not broken the system :-) Regards,Peter On Monday, 27 April 2020, 11:24:14 BST, Andy Townsend wrote: On 27/04/2020 11:16, Peter Neale wrote: It

Re: [Talk-GB] underfoot art

2020-04-26 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Pavement art, or perhaps street painting? Street painting - Wikipedia | | | | || | | | | | Street painting - Wikipedia | | | | Regards,Peter Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 15:32, Martin Wynne wrote: What is this stuff

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-02 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert, Many thanks for producing that map. I was able to look at my street and see a blue pin in each of the building outlines that I had mapped from aerial imagery, so that gave me a warm, smug feeling :) I too noticed some not-yet-there properties in a nearby development that had UPRNs

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

2020-07-15 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
>On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 22:07, ael > wrote: >On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:30:00PM >+0100, >Adam Snape wrote: >> >> this point if we're actually advocating the hitherto undocumented  usage of >> segregated=yes to mean 'cycleway is separate from main carriageway' because >> I suspect I'm not the

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

2020-07-03 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
friend has done some preliminary work) or similar. This is not elegant but is perhaps a first step in enabling a whole lot of development? Cheers Nick On 02/07/2020 18:38, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: Hi Robert, Many thanks for producing that map. I was able to look at

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN tag proposal page

2020-07-21 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Excellent proposal. No problems that I can see. Peter >On Tuesday, 21 July 2020, 09:18:02 BST, Tony OSM wrote: >Thanks for the effort. >No problem to vote for this, no "red flags" for me. >Tony >>On 20/07/2020 22:11, Rob Nickerson wrote: >>Hi all, >>As discussed at

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi @Ed, What area is this, please? NCN 51 comes near me through Milton Keynes, so I have made some adjustments to the relation in the past (when it was re-routed to avoid going through the middle of the intu shopping centre).  Regards,Peter On Friday, 14 August 2020, 09:04:51 BST, Ed

Re: [Talk-GB] Nominatim oddity

2020-12-07 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hmm. Well, in my case, it seems to come up as "Royaume-Uni"! I'll need to try to fix that. (presumably in my account settings...) Regards,Peter On Monday, 7 December 2020, 17:38:49 GMT, Ken Kilfedder wrote: That's the name in latin for the UK, I think.  Is it under name:la, and do you

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping a single Royal Mail mailbox with two references

2020-12-14 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
The Wiki says, "Sometimes several post boxes are standing together and can most often be tagged with one single node. If the boxes have different reference numbers this is tagged as ref=12242;23214. You can also use two separate nodes in such cases, which may be more appropriate if the boxes

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-13 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
IMHO, if it leads on to another road, track, etc. it is not a "driveway", but could be a track, a bridleway, a service road, or something else. The Wiki says that a driveway is (with my bold for emphasis),  " ... a minor service road leading to a residential or business property. It typically

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
At the risk of throwing another edge case into the pot (and mixing metaphors), can I ask how I should tag our flat? The Post Office Official postcode checker renders it as: Flat where refers to the whole block and is common to all the flats. I cannot see what the Post Office is calling the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-20 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Postal Town may be "mandatory", but it is not really needed. When presenting a parcel at my local post office recently, to be sent by the "signed for" service, they wanted to have the senders address on the reverse, so that it could be used as a return address, in the event of non-delivery. All

Re: [Talk-GB] Lorries can't limbo

2020-11-13 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I am pretty sure that I remember checking bridges in my area some time ago, using a tool that someone kindly provided, which flagged up all bridges, where the clearance height was not specified in OSM. I regret that I cannot now find the link.    Regards,Peter On Friday, 13 November 2020,

Re: [Talk-GB] Lorries can't limbo

2020-11-13 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-July/020359.html   Ed   From: Peter Neale via Talk-GB Sent: 13 November 2020 08:37 To: n...@ijive.co.uk; Jez Nicholson Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Lorries can't limbo   I am pretty sure that I remember checking bridges in my area some time ago, using a tool