Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-19 Thread Mark Goodge
On 18/11/2020 11:10, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It could well vary by local authority, but looking at the pattern of URPNs near where I live, it certainly seems that there is one assigned to every public road. There is consistently exactly UPRN at one end or the other of each road.

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-18 Thread James Derrick
Hi, Thanks for the additional information Mark - very useful. On 18/11/2020 11:28, Mark Goodge wrote: What I'd suggest, therefore, is that we should add as many USRNs as possible, based on a best-match between the relevant OSM way and the OS OpenUSRN geometry. But we should only add UPRNs

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-18 Thread Lester Caine
On 18/11/2020 11:10, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It's definitely possible for UPRNs to be assigned to streets. I think you can tell this by searching for such a UPRN at https://www.findmyaddress.co.uk/ (I don't look at that now since they added a new T forbidding any use of the

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-18 Thread Mark Goodge
On 18/11/2020 09:55, James Derrick wrote: Building UPRN tags appear to be more clear-cut, with the U*SN location node around the centre of a building way. As we all learn more about the data, perhaps I (and others?) may have been to quick to add USRN tags as they first became available?

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-18 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 10:42, Jez Nicholson wrote: > My personal opinion is that UPRNs never apply to a road or road section. They > apply to something that you cannot see, like a grit bin that is no longer > there. It's definitely possible for UPRNs to be assigned to streets. I think you can

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-18 Thread Jez Nicholson
Good stuff. We are all learning here. And the raw data is deliberably obfuscated. Some of the UPRNs near road junctions are mysterious. They could be old IDs for objects since removed. Do we have a full list of what objects could be included? My personal opinion is that UPRNs never apply to a

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-18 Thread James Derrick
Morning all, On 17/11/2020 15:32, Mark Goodge wrote: what we have is what, from a mapping perspective, is a single road (Glazebury Way), but that comprises multiple OSM ways. So it's not unreasonable to add the UPRN to all the ways which make up the road. However, in this case I think I am

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Steve Doerr
On 17/11/2020 22:34, Jez Nicholson wrote: From my change request discussion it appears that the UPRN appeared on the road as part of a test of Robert's Mathmos matching. The USRN and the UPRN tags showed the same number, I believe. The UPRN tag has now been removed leaving only the USRN, but

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Jez Nicholson
>From my change request discussion it appears that the UPRN appeared on the road as part of a test of Robert's Mathmos matching. On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, 16:15 Mark Goodge, wrote: > > > On 17/11/2020 15:41, Robert Skedgell wrote: > > > Roads can have more than one USRN. I've come across some

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Mark Goodge
On 17/11/2020 15:41, Robert Skedgell wrote: Roads can have more than one USRN. I've come across some sections of road which appear to have more than one Designated Street Name record (possibly streets which cross authority boundaries?). In addition to this, there may be records of types

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 17/11/2020 14:53, Cj Malone wrote: > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 14:10 +, Jez Nicholson wrote: >> Whilst i'm here, am I correct that a UPRN can *only* be on a single >> thing? >> So anything in >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AGB%3Auprn#values mo >> re >> than once is an

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Mark Goodge
On 17/11/2020 14:47, I wrote: But, having said that ...or can a road have a USRN *and* a UPRN? Yes. And, in this particular case: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/ref%3AGB%3Auprn=10071171668 (follow the Overpass turbo link to see it mapped) what we have is what, from a mapping

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 14:10 +, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Whilst i'm here, am I correct that a UPRN can *only* be on a single > thing? > So anything in > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AGB%3Auprn#values mo > re > than once is an error? > > ...or can a road have a USRN *and* a

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Mark Goodge
On 17/11/2020 14:10, Jez Nicholson wrote: Whilst i'm here, am I correct that a UPRN can *only* be on a single thing? So anything in https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AGB%3Auprn#values more than once is an

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Jez Nicholson
Whilst i'm here, am I correct that a UPRN can *only* be on a single thing? So anything in https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=ref%3AGB%3Auprn#values more than once is an error? ...or can a road have a USRN *and* a UPRN? On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:48 PM Jez Nicholson wrote: >

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Jez Nicholson
Well-spotted. I've updated it to, "UPRNs provide every property or object with a consistent, persistent, numerical identifier (often between 8 and 12 digits, but not restricted to 12)". I know that you've been looking at UPRNs, so please add to the wiki page or discussions. On Tue, Nov 17, 2020

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN wiki page

2020-11-17 Thread Mark Goodge
On 17/11/2020 11:34, Jez Nicholson wrote: Following the fine efforts of a number of people to get ref:GB:uprn through the tag proposal process I have created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:GB:uprn Please add information to